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I can't help but feel that the Elder Kindred network has lost is focus, and keeps getting distracted by petty details. Please take a step back and try to look at the site and organization through my eyes as a new/returning player.. Why did I come here? Because I want to play V:TES. What am I looking for? Other people who want to play V:TES. What did I find? Well I found an application to become a prince. However I suspect there are already 1 or 2 in the city, but I can't find any means to contact them. There is an event calendar listing games and tournaments all around the world. However I am unable to find out which one is nearest me. V:TES may be my favorite card game of all time, but if I'm going to drop money just so I can play it. I am going to do it by giving cards and decks to new players before I buy airline tickets, and actual new blood is even less likely to make major travel plans for the game. New players and those who will stop playing for a period of time want local. National or worldwide at best is an afterthought. If the priority is to get players to register and prices to list their events, I would suggest changing it to giving them a reason to.

In addition, www.vtes.org has a forum for playgroups around the world, it of course requires that they find us and tell us.

I apologize if I can came off a little harsh. I realize that after work, family and the other consideration in real life the 5 minutes it took to respond to my post is deserving of my utmost gratitude and respect. I did not mean to imply that anything that had been done or is being worked on is lacking of worth or somehow not of the utmost importance. I was merely trying to suggest to take a breath and step back to look at how much you had already accomplished. I think that I may have caught a slight glimmer of the hell that the White Wolf dump has been putting you all through.

When Wizard's had abandoned the game originally 'Prince” meant the local volunteer to keep the game alive and who to contact if you wanted to play. When one is receiving a paycheck, they will put up with a great deal of tedium and aggravation to get it. When you're relying on volunteers both of these things are plague.

My issue unable to contact a local player.
-cause a) I am an impatient childe that needs to learn to wait a reasonable amount of time for my elders to respond.
-cause b) I went to the wrong location, perhaps a rode sign would prevent another from making my folly.
-cause c) The entire city has fallen into torpor, frighting but quite possible in these dark times.

My suggestion
-create a cities tree of the forum threads person A) creates a thread denoting this city they belong to and subscribing to it. Person B) checks the list and subscribing to or creates their city., and so on. Until everyone is subscribed to the city/area they live in. The threads could be moved into subcategories if the city lists get too large to be easily manageable. Clearly direct new/returning players do it this as a means of local communication. That way either every member of the city is notified when a new player says 'hi', or it is apparent that currently you are the only active member near-by due to the need to make a new thread. I think these threads could also serve as a good means to plan and promote more casual style games informing everyone that could realisticly make it on short notice without overloading the majority of us who can't, and allow focus on the event calendar to major events like regionals and conventions that would likely bring about a great deal of travel.

Just my 2 cents, I am aware that all of you have been putting a lot more effort and time into this and undoubtedly know far more about the details and problems then I.

Jussi Hattara my jaw drops at your awesomeness in assisting me. Gratitude’s.