Wynning At Jyhad

Dorrinal wrote:

Quick question: there are 8 !Gangrel under 5 in group 3-4... is this deck better with Enkidu?

It wouldn't get to multirush but it would be superior in combat.

Suoli wrote:

Kushiel wrote:

EDIT: Whoops, never mind the Pack Alpha suggestion. Actually reading the card text instead of basing my suggestion on my poor memory alerted me to the fact that the +1 strength from its superior function is unique-per-vampire.

Luckily, Murder of Crows stacks. They cost a blood each but pay themselves back after the first Taste.

I think the next time I play this deck I will try a few iterations without Pack Alpha. I'm worried that running 2 different combos (Crows + Taste, Pack Alpha + Murder of Crows) will hurt card flow more than it helps the deck run.

I think that's why you should consider having your Chump-Nerds get your birds (any Raven Spies or Murders) after the first one or two so that Wynn can worry about being the badass!

Update!

I've just barely started a few games on JOL and a couple things are apparent:

• Too many Freak Drives. They are expensive.
• Kevlar Vest can and will be blocked; consider Guardian Angel.
• I can handle an Ivory Bow, but why not put one in for Wynn?
• Cannot handle big hitback very well; consider more Soak.
• NEEDS CANINE HORDE

The deck feels slow to play, and having multiple Wynns in the crypt makes it really hard to keep the combo going. I think I should add 1-3 Wider View as well as Information Highway and maybe a Dreams of the Sphinx. Or, you know, Effective Management.

Here is my latest iteration based on my ongoing games. I think this is a much stronger version. I've decided to drop Immortal Grapple and add a Desert Eagle. Advantage against ranged combat, big disadvantage against S:CE, but it also brings the deck down to a tight 60 cards. Aranthebes is a huge weakness; do I put one in to contest and for defense?

Would this deck be improved by:

• Animalism intercept module with retainers and more Freak Drive?
• Bleed defense like Archon Investigation or Dummy Corporation?
• Putting the Immortal Grapple back in?
• A stack of Villeins to drain the weenies with?
• Something else I haven't thought of?

Deck Name : Wynning at Jyhad
Author : John McGlynn
Description :
Wynn uses his special rush action to enter combats in which he generates blood to pay for Grooming the Protege. Build up a swarm of Gangrel for the oust!


Crypt [13 vampires] Capacity min: 2 max: 10 average: 5.76923

5x	Wynn	(10)		primogen	Gangrel	(g1)
1x	Bear Paw	(5)			Gangrel	(g1)
1x	Roman Alexander	(4)			Gangrel	(g1)
1x	Anastasia Grey	(3)			Gangrel	(g1)
1x	Chandler Hungerford	(3)			Gangrel	(g2)
1x	Panagos Levidis	(3)			Gangrel	(g2)
1x	Ricki Van Demsi	(3)			Gangrel	(g1)
1x	Giuliano Vincenzi	(2)			Gangrel	(g1)
1x	Vliam Andor	(2)			Gangrel	(g1)

Library [60 cards]

Action [7]
7x Deep Song

Action Modifier [6]
5x Freak Drive
1x Mask of a Thousand Faces

Combat [30]
2x Canine Horde
9x Carrion Crows
5x Hidden Strength
4x Indomitability
2x Soak
1x Superior Mettle
7x Taste of Vitae

Equipment [2]
1x Desert Eagle
1x Kevlar Vest

Master [13]
1x Ecoterrorists
1x Fame
7x Grooming the Protege
1x Information Highway
1x Perfectionist
1x Tension in the Ranks
1x Wider View

Reaction [2]
2x Delaying Tactics


Crafted with : Anarch Revolt Deck Builder. [Thu Dec 01 16:13:43 2011]

RE: Bloating from Weenies
TRIBUTE TO THE MASTER... Keeps the weenies looking healthy, still gets you 3+ pool. Just costs a little more in MPAs.

RE: Bleed Defence
Is there a reason why you wouldn't consider something like 2x Archon Investigation?

RE: Immortal Grapple
To hug or not to hug... With the Gun I feel you are light on presses... Without the gun you're prone to Hand for Lots!... It's a Column A/Column B situation. I'd choose based on what's turning up in your metagame.

I have a question : the most important aspect of the deck is what in your opinion ?

If it's speeding up your weenies gangrels with Grooming + taste of blood it seem not the best way to do it ; you can't really hope to taste for more than three, so you use both a MPA and a taste to make something a bit better than street creed at superior. It's nonetheless a fun concept.

Adding defenses that need action from your minion like animalism intercept seem counter-productive, or may lead you to another deck altogether.

In any case, the realisation is impressive. I wish I were able to make list this focused.