Friends with Dirty Vermin

Add a Heidelberg or two to make your ousts come lightning quick.

Throw away Dirty Little Secrets and get more stealth as milling doesn't help at all in any way unless you empty their library and hopefully (with no defense) you will be ousting them long before that happens.

Klaital wrote:

You are using basically only obfuscate, which makes your crypt very suboptimal as !nos have awesome crypt for obfuscate. Ditch Tock, Aaron, and Stick, replace with Lubomira, Skulk, and Skidmark. And then you also probably want to double up on Lubomira and Skulk rather than Blister and Neddacka.

I agree. Lubomira's special used to be crippling, but now she can play Inside Dirt.

I would also replace vermin channels with computer hackings and most if not all old friends with more stealth, faceless night is especially something I would use a lot of in a deck like this.

Old Friends are golden with the new crypt you're suggesting. Bleeding for two is as good as two bleeds for one (duh) halving the number of bleeds needed.

Well its mainly that he is playing very small vampires, and with vermin channel + old friends, they will be out of blood really fast. Not to mention that old friends isn't replaced in forever, and he is playing horde deck, playing with 4 card hand size sucks. The changes I suggested would let him bleed for that same 2 without any blood costs (or DNR headaches), so he could put for example some pool gain there in form of tributes.

Milling doesn't achieve anything here. Drop the dead cards.

@Klaital:
1) They won't be draining blood as fast. Please look at that lovely new card Inside Dirt that I'm planning to play. Not every minion is all-bleeding-all-the-time.

2) Sure, Old Friends comes with a painful DNR clause. Please point to the combat and reactions section of this deck where I care about having a low number of cards in someone else's turn...

@Suoli & Lemminkainen:
I enjoy working the psychological angle of milling on players. It has an effect. Just because you can't quantify it in pool does not mean it does not exist. At one point I was also thinking of loading in Couriers as well. I might take out the Old Friends for Couriers.

I had this deck to test out, with more tools than you, but maybe lessa ggressiveness. And absolutely no defence against combat...

1x Frank Litzpar 5 OBF ani for pot !Nosferatu:4
2x Skulk 4 OBF ani !Nosferatu:5
1x Nails 5 POT ani obf pro !Nosferatu:4
2x Raphael Catarari 5 OBF PRE aus pot tha !Nosferatu:4
1x Skidmark 5 FOR OBF aus pot !Nosferatu:4
1x Aaron Bathurst 4 for obf pot !Nosferatu:4
1x Blister 3 obf pot !Nosferatu:4
1x Lubomira Hradok 3 OBF !Nosferatu:5
1x Stick 3 ANI !Nosferatu:4
1x Old Neddacka 2 obf !Nosferatu:4


Library [71 cards]

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Action [25]
2x Conceal
7x Inside Dirt
2x Jack of Both Sides
14x Vermin Channel

Action Modifier [17]
4x Cloak the Gathering
3x Faceless Night
3x Forgotten Labyrinth
4x Old Friends
3x Veil the Legions

Equipment [4]
4x Laptop Computer

Master [17]
1x Communal Haven: Cathedral
3x Dreams of the Sphinx
2x Effective Management
2x Information Highway
1x Nosferatu Kingdom
2x Tribute to the Master
1x Using the Advantage
5x Vessel

Reaction [5]
1x Confusion of the Eye
2x Delaying Tactics
2x On the Qui Vive

Retainer [3]
2x J. S. Simmons, Esq.
1x Tasha Morgan

Juggernaut1981 wrote:

@Suoli & Lemminkainen:
I enjoy working the psychological angle of milling on players. It has an effect. Just because you can't quantify it in pool does not mean it does not exist. At one point I was also thinking of loading in Couriers as well. I might take out the Old Friends for Couriers.

If you get a psychological effect, it's one of "rush/oust backwards!" which I don't think is ever a useful effect.