Submission: Sabbat Loyalty
10 Sep 2017 15:53 - 01 Oct 2017 04:46 #83471
by jblacey
Submission: Sabbat Loyalty was created by jblacey
Name: Sabbat Loyalty
Cardtype: Action
Cost: 1 blood
Capacity: NA
Discipline: NA
Clan: NA
+1 Stealth. Requires a Sabbat vampire. Only one Sabbat Loyalty can be played each turn. Move 2 blood, +1 for each ready Bishop you control, from the blood bank to another Sabbat vampire.
World of Darkness reference: Sabbat vampires do not have to hunt like Camarilla vampires, instead they store large amounts of blood that they can distribute. The Bishops and Priests are usually responsible handing out that blood to Sabbat vampires that they deem worthy. The idea is that the more available Bishops, the more blood they can hand out. whitewolf.wikia.com/wiki/Bishop_(VTM)
How does this card address a compelling game need?: This card makes a Bishop deck viable. It means that the Bishop title is useful for something other than political actions. My hope is that this will encourage a mid-range Bishop deck since the title does not contest and it is reasonable to get multiple Bishops into play. This card can be used for bloating and pool gain via Villein. This card will serve a similar purpose as Fifth tradition but requires at least 2 Bishops to get the same value. As a safety measure it is restricted to once per turn.
Created by: Justin Lacey
Update: September 20th 2017
The original card was surprisingly weak. In fact, having an action to give another vampire 2-4 blood was never worth it.I had to run a multi action deck to make this card viable and that is when it occurred to me that the decks that needed the help were the ones that didn't have multiple action as option. So hopefully this a better idea.
Sabbat Loyalty

1
+1 Stealth. Requires a Sabbat vampire. Only one Sabbat Loyalty can be played per turn. Unlock another ready Sabbat vampire and if the acting vampire is a Bishop, then unlock the acting vampire.
What this means is that the new reward for loyalty is to be unlocked. Thematically, the idea is that they are giving them blood to help them keep moving (unlock). This accomplishes the goal of allowing Bishops to be the oil that keeps the Sabbat machine running and not make them just a weaker Archbishop. It is a good action, but still limited to once per turn. It costs a blood and it reinforces the idea of Sabbat vampires helping other Sabbat vampires. There is no stacking benefit for having multiple Bishops but that isn't huge concern as Sabbat has less Bishops than the Camarilla has Primogen (47 vs 66). This version is much better for Group 2-3 Nosferatu antitribu (a combat rush deck) and Group 3-4 Tremere antitribu (a vote deck built around Orlando Oriundus).
Update: October 1st 2017
Forget art notes and flavor text
Flavor Text: “We are an army." -Julius Sutphen
Art Notes: Julius Sutphen standing in front of a fountain of blood surrounded by a crowd of vampires. Preferably the exact same one used for the Sabbat Binding.
Cardtype: Action
Cost: 1 blood
Capacity: NA
Discipline: NA
Clan: NA
+1 Stealth. Requires a Sabbat vampire. Only one Sabbat Loyalty can be played each turn. Move 2 blood, +1 for each ready Bishop you control, from the blood bank to another Sabbat vampire.
World of Darkness reference: Sabbat vampires do not have to hunt like Camarilla vampires, instead they store large amounts of blood that they can distribute. The Bishops and Priests are usually responsible handing out that blood to Sabbat vampires that they deem worthy. The idea is that the more available Bishops, the more blood they can hand out. whitewolf.wikia.com/wiki/Bishop_(VTM)
How does this card address a compelling game need?: This card makes a Bishop deck viable. It means that the Bishop title is useful for something other than political actions. My hope is that this will encourage a mid-range Bishop deck since the title does not contest and it is reasonable to get multiple Bishops into play. This card can be used for bloating and pool gain via Villein. This card will serve a similar purpose as Fifth tradition but requires at least 2 Bishops to get the same value. As a safety measure it is restricted to once per turn.
Created by: Justin Lacey
Update: September 20th 2017
The original card was surprisingly weak. In fact, having an action to give another vampire 2-4 blood was never worth it.I had to run a multi action deck to make this card viable and that is when it occurred to me that the decks that needed the help were the ones that didn't have multiple action as option. So hopefully this a better idea.
Sabbat Loyalty

1

+1 Stealth. Requires a Sabbat vampire. Only one Sabbat Loyalty can be played per turn. Unlock another ready Sabbat vampire and if the acting vampire is a Bishop, then unlock the acting vampire.
What this means is that the new reward for loyalty is to be unlocked. Thematically, the idea is that they are giving them blood to help them keep moving (unlock). This accomplishes the goal of allowing Bishops to be the oil that keeps the Sabbat machine running and not make them just a weaker Archbishop. It is a good action, but still limited to once per turn. It costs a blood and it reinforces the idea of Sabbat vampires helping other Sabbat vampires. There is no stacking benefit for having multiple Bishops but that isn't huge concern as Sabbat has less Bishops than the Camarilla has Primogen (47 vs 66). This version is much better for Group 2-3 Nosferatu antitribu (a combat rush deck) and Group 3-4 Tremere antitribu (a vote deck built around Orlando Oriundus).
Update: October 1st 2017
Forget art notes and flavor text
Flavor Text: “We are an army." -Julius Sutphen
Art Notes: Julius Sutphen standing in front of a fountain of blood surrounded by a crowd of vampires. Preferably the exact same one used for the Sabbat Binding.
Last edit: 01 Oct 2017 04:46 by jblacey.
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10 Sep 2017 17:50 #83474
by ScoundrelAtHeart
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Replied by ScoundrelAtHeart on topic Submission: Sabbat Loyalty
Die clarity of text it should say if the targeted Sabbat vampire needs to be ready.

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10 Sep 2017 18:19 #83477
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Yes, it should say "another ready Sabbat vampire". I will add it on my next update. Thanks.
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20 Sep 2017 15:24 #83602
by jblacey
Replied by jblacey on topic Submission: Sabbat Loyalty
New version, significant change. Reasons in the original post.
Sabbat Loyalty

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+1 Stealth. Requires a Sabbat vampire. Only one Sabbat Loyalty can be played per turn. Unlock another ready Sabbat vampire and if the acting vampire is a Bishop, then unlock the acting vampire.
Sabbat Loyalty

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+1 Stealth. Requires a Sabbat vampire. Only one Sabbat Loyalty can be played per turn. Unlock another ready Sabbat vampire and if the acting vampire is a Bishop, then unlock the acting vampire.
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20 Sep 2017 17:35 #83605
by ScoundrelAtHeart
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Replied by ScoundrelAtHeart on topic Submission: Sabbat Loyalty
So this gives the Sabbat another form of Freak Drive. Thats nice because I have only 3 Freak Drives.


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20 Sep 2017 17:55 #83606
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Replied by jblacey on topic Submission: Sabbat Loyalty
Similar to Freak Drive. It can be blocked, it's not a surprise action modifier, only usable once per turn, requires another Sabbat vampire and if you don't have a Bishop the acting vampire doesn't unlock. But yes, it does mean Sabbat clans that don't normally have access to gain multiple actions would have a new option.
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