file [Submission] Shovelhead

10 Jul 2018 23:37 #88741 by Lech
Lech created the topic: [Submission] Shovelhead
Shovelhead
clan: Pander
group: any
capacity: 1
Sabbat: When the Shovelhead enters play, you may remove him from the game to make a vampire you control sabbat, change clan to corresponding sabbat clan and draw 2 cards from your crypt. Sterile.

Art Notes: Just embraced vampired dig out of grave, in th background other vampire is about to hit him in the head with shovel.

Game need: Improve crypt choices of sabbat clans.

FAQ: It change Brujah into Brujah anti, but don't change Giovanni into Harbringer of Skulls, nor Caitiff into Pander (which is unfortunate, maybe the last one should be reversed), nor Salubri/True Brujah into !Salubri or !Brujah.
Titled vampires lose any title they had, until they regain sect.
I opted for two crypt cards to emphasise on sabbat pack mentality and to allow some horde enabler.

:laso: :CEL: :DOM: :OBT: :POT: :cap8:
Sabbat.Black Hand Shakar: Lech loathe ranged weapons. Once each action, he may burn 1 blood to become Camarilla Prince of Krakow until the end of the action.

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11 Jul 2018 00:40 #88746 by 1uck
1uck replied the topic: [Submission] Shovelhead
Changing sects for the cost of a pool and transfer seems fair enough. But, changing clans has always been rare, and there's no precedent for "corresponding sabbat clan" to change to.

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11 Jul 2018 03:58 #88749 by self biased
self biased replied the topic: [Submission] Shovelhead
i like the idea and it super fits. Now.all we have to do is just get rid of the antitribu clans and it would make sense.

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11 Jul 2018 10:17 #88769 by Boris The Blade
Boris The Blade replied the topic: [Submission] Shovelhead
Replace 1 card only, not 2. The game certainly doe snot need a way to decrease the cost of drawing new vampires from 4 transfers to 1.

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11 Jul 2018 11:27 #88771 by Lech
Lech replied the topic: [Submission] Shovelhead
There is no precedent, but it's painfully obvious:
gangrel -> gangrel antitribu
brujah -> brujah antitribu
malkavian -> malkavian antitribu
ventrue -> ventrue antitribu
nosferatu -> nosferatu antitribu
toreador -> toreador antitribu
tremere -> tremere antitribu

:laso: :CEL: :DOM: :OBT: :POT: :cap8:
Sabbat.Black Hand Shakar: Lech loathe ranged weapons. Once each action, he may burn 1 blood to become Camarilla Prince of Krakow until the end of the action.

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11 Jul 2018 19:55 #88782 by self biased
self biased replied the topic: [Submission] Shovelhead
yes, but when any other non-sabbat vampire becomes sabbat using this card has an anti-tribu to turn into. A follower of Set isnt going to turn into a Serpent of the Light or Follower of Set Antitribu.

It really throws into sharp relief how unnecessary anti-tribu clans are for me.

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