The Full Bleed project - back on my bullshit [03.20]

DeathInABottle wrote:

Pascal wrote:

Keep the seal. We don't want to alter the 20 yo icons.

Counterpoint: it's hideous.

this is precisely what i meant about change being difficult. In my mind, V:tes suffers from a few legacy issues, and to me "because we've always done it this way" isn't always a good answer to "why aren't we doing things differently?"

i mean, i get it. I truly do. It'd be an awkward transition to lose The Splat, but is it truly necessary for the design? do we really even need expansion icons anymore? i mean, it must be hard enough to come up with names that don't sound ridiculously awful, let alone drying to come up with an expansion icon that isn't a skull, ankh or whatever.

as much as i really don't like The Splat on an intellectual level, i know from habit that something's missing and it's unsettling.

don't get me wrong, i'm pretty sure my shitty opinions will get smacked down mercilessly. i'm just thrilled that we're actually talking about this sort of thing.

I prefer v1. Clan symbols on v2 are too large and looks awful. We could also remove expansion symbol but it's not bad when it's smaller not usual and moved more to the top left (like in v1).
Cards without the splat looks a little better but removing it and changing to full bleed would make it really hard to recognize some clan dirrerences so that's probably not a good idea

For me, bigger clan icons with wax seal to keep it consistent with existing cards yet increased visibility.

I'd love to see changed clan icons and mass errata, but it just can't be done without mass reprints.

yeah, i think i'm going to have to say that the enhanced icon is going to be the way to go.

...i'm... beginning to think that i have a problem.





one of the things that i have to correct is the rounding of the corners, as they look a little choppy.

i like the other Nicolaus Vermeulen picture, Adelain Davis is really nice. Good job!!

I'd like to hickjack the thread and say that while we are discussing extended art crypt, can we change regular crypt layout too?

Keep the strip clan based and rest with clan backgroud too- with cvisible transition between those two. Of course with reduced in size/removed set icon.

If we are getting re-design, why not do it right for both regular and extended art?

i'm not quite sure what you're asking. are you asking that the bar that's normally green marble also be the same texture as the rest of the clan background?

i mean, i'd be all for re-upping some new clan backgrounds. it's been ten years since we've had new ones.

self wrote:

...i'm... beginning to think that i have a problem.

I'm glad that you have some problems...

self wrote:

one of the things that i have to correct is the rounding of the corners, as they look a little choppy.

Thanks for experimenting with other art, if not anything else but to show how various artists' work actually work as full-bleed.

Gwendolyn really jumps out, but for some reason I like it more and more.

self wrote:

i'm not quite sure what you're asking. are you asking that the bar that's normally green marble also be the same texture as the rest of the clan background?

i mean, i'd be all for re-upping some new clan backgrounds. it's been ten years since we've had new ones.

Exactly, bar with the same texture as rest of the card, except that it's clear distinction between the bar and rest of the background to keep it closer to the current cards.

I just think that uniform green color on every single crypt card make some clans disservice, notable example is Lasombra that look great in your full bleed version, and awful with green marble.

On a side note, i'm all for new backgrounds, current ones are quite nice, but looks bit dated. But i think i'd like to see them implemented only if there will be actual print runs.