The Unaligned: Previews
29 Sep 2014 06:36 - 29 Sep 2014 06:37 #65858
by Klaital
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Heh I find it quite funny that in the preview they say how they are going to make POT heavy crypt, then preview vampire who has all in-clans -except- potence at superior.
Its a great vampire though, and VERY nice picture.
Not sure how good that combat card will be though, you can't really play too many of them, since its not that great if you don't already have something to use it with in your ash heap, I suppose it comboes nicely with liquidation at least, and its really only worth using if you use quite varied combat package, as if your only using like 2-4 different combat cards, why not just put more copies of each of those?
Its a great vampire though, and VERY nice picture.
Not sure how good that combat card will be though, you can't really play too many of them, since its not that great if you don't already have something to use it with in your ash heap, I suppose it comboes nicely with liquidation at least, and its really only worth using if you use quite varied combat package, as if your only using like 2-4 different combat cards, why not just put more copies of each of those?
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29 Sep 2014 07:39 - 29 Sep 2014 07:41 #65859
by PetriWessman
My feel is "very good". Sure, it doesn't do much in a deck running on just a few different combat cards... but few combat decks, other than maybe animalism, will run with such a simple package. Typical potence decks will want to pack all sorts of cards, to deal with different types of targets. Grapples, maneuvers, different types of strikes, Tastes, etc. Oh, and with the Giovanni you may well want to add a few combat ends there too, to handle cases where you're up against something you can't handle. This new card gives you on-demand access to your whole combat toolkit (once per combat, of course), once you have it in your ash heap... and given decent card flow tech, getting most of it into your ash heap should not be a big problem.
We'll see when the first decks are designed
The tricky bit is figuring out how many of these to put in a deck, compared to the number of combat cards.
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Not sure how good that combat card will be though
My feel is "very good". Sure, it doesn't do much in a deck running on just a few different combat cards... but few combat decks, other than maybe animalism, will run with such a simple package. Typical potence decks will want to pack all sorts of cards, to deal with different types of targets. Grapples, maneuvers, different types of strikes, Tastes, etc. Oh, and with the Giovanni you may well want to add a few combat ends there too, to handle cases where you're up against something you can't handle. This new card gives you on-demand access to your whole combat toolkit (once per combat, of course), once you have it in your ash heap... and given decent card flow tech, getting most of it into your ash heap should not be a big problem.
We'll see when the first decks are designed
The tricky bit is figuring out how many of these to put in a deck, compared to the number of combat cards.
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29 Sep 2014 10:21 #65864
by HG.fi
An example:
Potence Immortal Grapple combat with no maneuvers of its own, but uses Thrown Sewer Lids to catch those opponents that maneuver away.
Without Spiritual Guidance, you will have either too many or too little Sewer Lids, period. With Spiritual Guidance, your card flow will be superior and your combat hand jams way less frequent.
A brilliant card, and it allows you to use more "just in case" combat cards, without fearing massive hand jamming.
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[...]if [you're] only using like 2-4 different combat cards, why not just put more copies of each of those?
An example:
Potence Immortal Grapple combat with no maneuvers of its own, but uses Thrown Sewer Lids to catch those opponents that maneuver away.
Without Spiritual Guidance, you will have either too many or too little Sewer Lids, period. With Spiritual Guidance, your card flow will be superior and your combat hand jams way less frequent.
A brilliant card, and it allows you to use more "just in case" combat cards, without fearing massive hand jamming.
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29 Sep 2014 13:33 #65868
by extrala
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The twisting twister twist: Make Henry Taylor a Giovanni.
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29 Sep 2014 13:43 #65869
by Timo
It is a fun idea but you will be able to use each card only once because after that it would be ou of game.
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The twisting twister twist: Make Henry Taylor a Giovanni.
It is a fun idea but you will be able to use each card only once because after that it would be ou of game.
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29 Sep 2014 13:53 #65870
by ReverendRevolver
Its the same style application as Art of Memory. Use what you want from a list of options not available if you just make that card an additional copy of one option. Dialing in what the gamestate requires.
Ive had 4 grapples, a signpost, and no manuevers or lids in hand against opponents with one manuever. If you cut in this card in place of a fee of each thing, you have more of what you need if its drawn mid to late game instead of having that 68% chance you need something and draw it.
Its nice. Worste case, pitch em to cancel a TV?
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[...]if [you're] only using like 2-4 different combat cards, why not just put more copies of each of those?
An example:
Potence Immortal Grapple combat with no maneuvers of its own, but uses Thrown Sewer Lids to catch those opponents that maneuver away.
Without Spiritual Guidance, you will have either too many or too little Sewer Lids, period. With Spiritual Guidance, your card flow will be superior and your combat hand jams way less frequent.
A brilliant card, and it allows you to use more "just in case" combat cards, without fearing massive hand jamming.
Its the same style application as Art of Memory. Use what you want from a list of options not available if you just make that card an additional copy of one option. Dialing in what the gamestate requires.
Ive had 4 grapples, a signpost, and no manuevers or lids in hand against opponents with one manuever. If you cut in this card in place of a fee of each thing, you have more of what you need if its drawn mid to late game instead of having that 68% chance you need something and draw it.
Its nice. Worste case, pitch em to cancel a TV?
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29 Sep 2014 16:28 #65877
by Lech
Of course, but i guess yu only have like 5 of those total, and most other cards are at least doubled. In most cases, you want that IG/TS/ToV back, and that card increase the odds for getting that crucial part of the combo on your hand. Say you have 8/8/5 split, and thrown in some Thrown Sewer Lids, Spiritual Interventions, T:V, slams and Disarms - maybe fake outs, along with the new card. About 34-40 cards total. In the old ways, you'd add two more torn signpost and grapples, maybe disarm. In new way, you have 5 cards that most often serve to get those grapples or torn signpost, but can be used to fetch more options, like playing 6 thrown sewer lids/4 s:ce against animalism combat.
Long story short, it improve flow of the combat package and only at the beginning it's death weight.
Sabbat.Black Hand Shakar: Lech loathe ranged weapons. Once each action, he may burn 1 blood to become Camarilla Prince of Krakow until the end of the action.
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The twisting twister twist: Make Henry Taylor a Giovanni.
It is a fun idea but you will be able to use each card only once because after that it would be ou of game.
Of course, but i guess yu only have like 5 of those total, and most other cards are at least doubled. In most cases, you want that IG/TS/ToV back, and that card increase the odds for getting that crucial part of the combo on your hand. Say you have 8/8/5 split, and thrown in some Thrown Sewer Lids, Spiritual Interventions, T:V, slams and Disarms - maybe fake outs, along with the new card. About 34-40 cards total. In the old ways, you'd add two more torn signpost and grapples, maybe disarm. In new way, you have 5 cards that most often serve to get those grapples or torn signpost, but can be used to fetch more options, like playing 6 thrown sewer lids/4 s:ce against animalism combat.
Long story short, it improve flow of the combat package and only at the beginning it's death weight.
Sabbat.Black Hand Shakar: Lech loathe ranged weapons. Once each action, he may burn 1 blood to become Camarilla Prince of Krakow until the end of the action.
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30 Sep 2014 12:33 #65912
by Damnans
Vampire: Elder Kindred Network's second expansion for Vampire: the Eternal Struggle is The Unaligned, which focuses on the main Independent clans: Assamites, Followers of Set, Gangrel, Giovanni and Ravnos. The expansion is released in PDF format.
The set contains 47 crypt cards and 26 library cards.
In the Week of Nightmares, the Ravnos were nearly wiped out. Those who survived tended to be Ravnos antitribu, so we've included a few Sabbat Ravnos in The Unaligned. The Independent Ravnos in the set help fill some holes in Groups 3-6. The library cards are a mix of combat, bleed, and defense.
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THE UNALIGNED
Official release: October 4, 2014
Legal for Tournament Play: November 3, 2014
Legal for Tournament Play: November 3, 2014
Vampire: Elder Kindred Network's second expansion for Vampire: the Eternal Struggle is The Unaligned, which focuses on the main Independent clans: Assamites, Followers of Set, Gangrel, Giovanni and Ravnos. The expansion is released in PDF format.
The set contains 47 crypt cards and 26 library cards.
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In the Week of Nightmares, the Ravnos were nearly wiped out. Those who survived tended to be Ravnos antitribu, so we've included a few Sabbat Ravnos in The Unaligned. The Independent Ravnos in the set help fill some holes in Groups 3-6. The library cards are a mix of combat, bleed, and defense.
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30 Sep 2014 14:05 #65920
by extrala
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Is this the last round of previews?
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30 Sep 2014 14:17 #65921
by Ashur
"My strategy? Luck is my strategy, of course."
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Great artwork, both Iago and Hall of Mirrors.In the Week of Nightmares, the Ravnos were nearly wiped out. Those who survived tended to be Ravnos antitribu, so we've included a few Sabbat Ravnos in The Unaligned. The Independent Ravnos in the set help fill some holes in Groups 3-6. The library cards are a mix of combat, bleed, and defense.
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