file Anarch-ing Parmenides

05 Sep 2012 06:16 #35992 by Ankha
Replied by Ankha on topic Re: Anarch-ing Parmenides

If not, we have just found VtES fastest effect. :laugh:

Indeed, there's nothing fastest than something that happens immediately.

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05 Sep 2012 06:37 #35995 by Pascal Bertrand

So, CoC checks if the vampire can bleed before the vampire actually has a chance to try?

No, it constantly checks.

Tryphosa is on the table.
Acting Methuselah does CoC targeting Marciana Giovanni, turned Malkavian. Her bleeds cost 2 blood.
She goes to the uncontrolled region before Heilderberg can give her the blood she needs.

Correct.

It's like CoC can predict if a vampire can bleed before he actually gets the chance to do so.

It checks, there is no prediction involved here. If it were about foreseeing, you could argue that Heidelberg being usable, Marcianna could bleed.

I assume the Acting Methuselah can use the Coven so Marciana can bleed...?
If not, we have just found VtES fastest effect. :laugh:

Sure you can. You can use the Coven whenever you want (except in the "as played" window, but that's in the rulebook).
See also: Arika with 2 blood bleeds with Govern + Conditioning. Tap Coven. Play Freak Drive.

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05 Sep 2012 08:09 #36002 by wesile
Replied by wesile on topic Re: Anarch-ing Parmenides
Just one more thing...

Instead of one vampire I bring 2 with CoC.

The first can bleed so it does bleed...

Before the second bleed can I use coven, heidelberg or other effects?

I am asking this because now I think there is a "between actions windows"... is that so?

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12 Sep 2012 06:12 #36543 by Pascal Bertrand

Just one more thing...

Instead of one vampire I bring 2 with CoC.

The first can bleed so it does bleed...

Before the second bleed can I use coven, heidelberg or other effects?

You can use the Coven during actions, but, yes, you can also use it outside of actions.
You can use the Heidelberg Castle here.
Other effects that are usable before a mandatory action are usable.

I am asking this because now I think there is a "between actions windows"... is that so?

Yes. It's the impulse that is used when you want to tap the Heidelberg Castle because you want to move those Raven Spies and the .44 Magnum from the minion who got Mind Numbed to the other untapped guy.

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