Cloak the Gathering - PB Confirmation

@Pascal:
Mostly to have this confirmed ON THE VEKN SITE... (not the Google-group)

Cloak the Gathering is a legal play by a ready tapped vampire which is not the acting minion but is controlled by the same Methuselah?

Juggernaut1981 wrote:

Cloak the Gathering is a legal play by a ready tapped which is not the acting minion but is controlled by the same Methuselah?

Sure. Being untapped is not (in the Rulebook) a requirement for playing action modifiers (which would scarcely be used, if it were the case).

Cloak the Gathering
[Jyhad:C, VTES:C, Sabbat:C, SW:C, FN:PS3, CE:C/PM4, BH:PM4, Third:PM6, LotN:PS2, KoT:C, HttB:PSam4]
Cardtype: Action Modifier
Discipline: Obfuscate
[obf] +1 stealth.
[OBF] Only usable by a ready vampire other than the acting minion you control. The action gets +1 stealth.


Some action modifiers require an untapped vampire. In these cases, the wording is explicit. Perhaps the Golden Rule of Cardtext should also read "If a card doesn't contradict the rules, then follow the Rulebook"..


Name: Veil the Legions
Cardtype: Action Modifier
Discipline: Obfuscate
[obf] Only usable by a ready, untapped vampire other than the acting minion you control. The acting minion gets +1 stealth. Only one Veil the Legions may be played each action.
[OBF] As above, and this vampire may burn X additional blood to give +1 stealth to the next X actions your minions perform this turn. Only one Veil the Legions can be played at superior each turn.

Name: Mask of a Thousand Faces
Cardtype: Action Modifier
Discipline: Obfuscate
[obf] Only usable by a ready, untapped vampire other than the acting minion who is capable of performing the action. Not usable if any action modifiers or other effects have been used that could not have been used if this vampire were the acting vampire. Untap the acting minion and tap this vampire instead. The action continues with this vampire as the acting minion.
[OBF] As above, with +1 stealth.

Juggernaut1981 wrote:

@Pascal:
Mostly to have this confirmed ON THE VEKN SITE... (not the Google-group)

Cloak the Gathering is a legal play by a ready tapped vampire which is not the acting minion but is controlled by the same Methuselah?

I'm always curious why questions like this need to be asked, because it is my firm and experienced opinion that players believe things work (or should work) a certain way, but not having read and/or understood the rulebook, players do not actually know what the rules are. So, I'll ask:

Did the card text not answer this question for you?
If not: Did the rulebook not answer this question for you?
If not: How did they both not?

KevinM wrote:

So, I'll ask:

Did the card text not answer this question for you?
If not: Did the rulebook not answer this question for you?
If not: How did they both not?

I'm always curious why questions like this need to be asked

I did read the card.
I did read the rulebook.
I did a preliminary search.
I did NOT trust my interpretation because I often find that LSJs interpretations of the rules (in the past) have been very different to my own. HENCE I ask.

Also, I specifically asked here so that we can have the results of this question recorded HERE in the new place for recording rulings.

Haze wrote:

KevinM wrote:

So, I'll ask:

Did the card text not answer this question for you?
If not: Did the rulebook not answer this question for you?
If not: How did they both not?

I'm always curious why questions like this need to be asked

Nice. +1 on your troll score.