file Reconfirm - Heroic Might (the 2R) and Increased Strength

12 Apr 2013 20:22 #46890 by KevinM

Just to be clear, though, I think LSJ's ruling is unfortunate and I would welcome its reversal, as long as the reversal was precise and logical.

I'd like to know what you believe would be "precise and logical", given that you want the ruling reversed.

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12 Apr 2013 20:57 - 12 Apr 2013 21:00 #46891 by Izaak

It's not at all hard to understand, which is why it's weird that you don't understand. Inapt analogies (what you call "similar cards", which are not very similar at all) are irrelevant. As is being pointed out by other folks, justifications for a contrary ruling do not constitute evidence of your claim that the ruling is illogical or inconsistent. It is logical and it is consistent.


It is logical in the same way that it's logical that shoes are a requirement for for walking and it's consistent in the sense that it's the only card that follows this abomination of a ruling and is thus consistent with itself.

Sure.

(Also, Vincent's Echo of Harmonies example was in fact spot on).
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12 Apr 2013 22:53 #46892 by Molloy

Just to be clear, though, I think LSJ's ruling is unfortunate and I would welcome its reversal, as long as the reversal was precise and logical.

I'd like to know what you believe would be "precise and logical", given that you want the ruling reversed.


Maybe something like this:

If a card in play (as opposed to a card being played) provides an effect that can be used by a minion not having the discipline or trait that was required to put the card into play, then that effect is not considered to require that discipline or trait.

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13 Apr 2013 01:20 #46893 by Dorrinal
Q: Why should Increased Strength work on Heroic Might's ranged strike?
A: Because it is awesome.

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13 Apr 2013 03:43 #46894 by Haze
Q: Why should Increased Strength work on Heroic Might's ranged strike?
A: Are you gonna tell someone with superior potence that it doesn't?
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14 Apr 2013 16:13 #46954 by Pascal Bertrand

Always find these gems that blow my mind (because I thought it was the opposite).

So increased strength affects the 2R strike from Heroic Might?

groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/e2PNDpg-l_c/wqEDxGHKJQgJ

Its not the Rulings section so just wanted to make sure...


Reconfirmed, so far.
If anything should happen to this one, I'll post a reply to this message.
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