 fabrizia contreraz
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						12 Jul 2015 01:52				#72007
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				hi
what does it mean fabrizia contreraz's text? we are not native english speakers so it was very weird to try to understand what did it mean?
Interpretation A: she loses votes when your prey controls a not ready camarilla vampire
Interpretation B: she loses votes then your prey doesn't control a ready camarilla.
(it was weird as the difference between no, not and non is not something we are thought in school)
Many thanks in advance
fabrizia contreraz
Sabbat Archbishop of Miami: If your prey controls no ready Camarilla vampires, Fabrizia gets two fewer votes in each referendum.
					what does it mean fabrizia contreraz's text? we are not native english speakers so it was very weird to try to understand what did it mean?
Interpretation A: she loses votes when your prey controls a not ready camarilla vampire
Interpretation B: she loses votes then your prey doesn't control a ready camarilla.
(it was weird as the difference between no, not and non is not something we are thought in school)
Many thanks in advance
fabrizia contreraz
Sabbat Archbishop of Miami: If your prey controls no ready Camarilla vampires, Fabrizia gets two fewer votes in each referendum.
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						12 Jul 2015 02:03				#72009
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				Interpretation A: she loses votes when your prey [does not]control a ready camarilla vampire			
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						12 Jul 2015 07:32				#72015
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				Also: she has her 2 votes only while you prey controls a ready Camarilla vampire.			
							
					
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						13 Jul 2015 12:17				#72025
		by enriquesmw
	
	
		
			
				
But what happens when fabrizia prey player dont' control a vampire (i.e. all are in the uncontroled region)? for me she don't loose his votes, because the prey player don't control a no camarilla vampire
Sorry for ask, also i was the player playing fabrizia in 'nac' tables, so for me i hope to clarify this card.
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			Also: she has her 2 votes only while you prey controls a ready Camarilla vampire.
But what happens when fabrizia prey player dont' control a vampire (i.e. all are in the uncontroled region)? for me she don't loose his votes, because the prey player don't control a no camarilla vampire
Sorry for ask, also i was the player playing fabrizia in 'nac' tables, so for me i hope to clarify this card.
Thx
 
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						13 Jul 2015 12:48		 -  13 Jul 2015 12:49		#72026
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Fabrizia loses her votes.
That would be more like "If your prey controls a non-Camarilla vampire, ..."
To get rid of the confusion about "no", "non-Camarilla", "none" etc., you can treat Fabrizia's text as saying "If the number of ready Camarilla vampires controlled by your prey is zero, Fabrizia gets two fewer votes in each referendum."
If your prey controls at least one ready Camarilla vampire, Fabrizia gets her normal votes. In all other circumstances, Fabrizia loses those votes.
					
	
	
			 		
													
		
				Replied by jamesatzephyr on topic Re: fabrizia contreraz			
			But what happens when fabrizia prey player dont' control a vampire (i.e. all are in the uncontroled region)?
Fabrizia loses her votes.
for me she don't loose his votes, because the prey player don't control a no camarilla vampire
That would be more like "If your prey controls a non-Camarilla vampire, ..."
To get rid of the confusion about "no", "non-Camarilla", "none" etc., you can treat Fabrizia's text as saying "If the number of ready Camarilla vampires controlled by your prey is zero, Fabrizia gets two fewer votes in each referendum."
If your prey controls at least one ready Camarilla vampire, Fabrizia gets her normal votes. In all other circumstances, Fabrizia loses those votes.
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						13 Jul 2015 15:49				#72028
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Ok, the problem is that in spanish for us (non english experts) the "no" word aplies to the rest of the sentence and not for the "controls", the explanation was in the spanish translation of the card, but again like you say the difference between no, non, not it's not clear for us
(please feel free to edit this post if i made some gramatical mistake thx)
www.vekn.net/images/stories/downloads/spanish/cardlist_esp.txt
The Spanish translate of the card it's prety clear:
"Arzobispo Sabbat de Miami: Si tu presa --no controla-- a ningún vampiro Camarilla, Fabrizia consigue 2 votos menos en cada referéndum."
not controls like you say
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But what happens when fabrizia prey player dont' control a vampire (i.e. all are in the uncontroled region)?
Fabrizia loses her votes.
for me she don't loose his votes, because the prey player don't control a no camarilla vampire
That would be more like "If your prey controls a non-Camarilla vampire, ..."
To get rid of the confusion about "no", "non-Camarilla", "none" etc., you can treat Fabrizia's text as saying "If the number of ready Camarilla vampires controlled by your prey is zero, Fabrizia gets two fewer votes in each referendum."
If your prey controls at least one ready Camarilla vampire, Fabrizia gets her normal votes. In all other circumstances, Fabrizia loses those votes.
Ok, the problem is that in spanish for us (non english experts) the "no" word aplies to the rest of the sentence and not for the "controls", the explanation was in the spanish translation of the card, but again like you say the difference between no, non, not it's not clear for us
(please feel free to edit this post if i made some gramatical mistake thx)
www.vekn.net/images/stories/downloads/spanish/cardlist_esp.txt
The Spanish translate of the card it's prety clear:
"Arzobispo Sabbat de Miami: Si tu presa --no controla-- a ningún vampiro Camarilla, Fabrizia consigue 2 votos menos en cada referéndum."
not controls like you say

Thx
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