file Card Idea: Baal's Caress

02 Dec 2011 13:08 - 02 Dec 2011 13:12 #16784 by Lech
Replied by Lech on topic Re: Card Idea: Baal's Caress

Since there is a Path to reduce the cost of :qui: cards, the inferior should probably be limited to once per combat.


Considering that you can't count on the path, and playing multiple don't help you much (it don't deal any damage, it's moot if enemy have -43 strength or 0), and that it have 1 blood cost, it's not really that important. There is path for horrid form too, and it's also unlimited.

I *can* add it, but it would make it weaker against DI and that's it. It's not as good as carrion crows or immortal grapple to make it DI bait.

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Sabbat.Black Hand Shakar: Lech loathe ranged weapons. Once each action, he may burn 1 blood to become Camarilla Prince of Krakow until the end of the action.
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02 Dec 2011 13:38 #16790 by Ohlmann

It's good card, worse than carrion crows, but what is better ?


Well, it's more a mix between Claw of the dead / chiroptean marauder and Immortal grapple. A carrion crow deck that have access to inf quietus would likely play both, since it protect against the main weakness of carrion crow, Combat end.

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02 Dec 2011 13:40 - 02 Dec 2011 13:42 #16791 by Lech
Replied by Lech on topic Re: Card Idea: Baal's Caress
It don't help against combat ends (and dodges), combat end is not ranged strike.

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Sabbat.Black Hand Shakar: Lech loathe ranged weapons. Once each action, he may burn 1 blood to become Camarilla Prince of Krakow until the end of the action.
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02 Dec 2011 13:44 #16792 by Suoli
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Needs to be for the duration of the current round only. Otherwise the inferior is like Apparition and Thoughts Betrayed in one package.

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02 Dec 2011 13:47 #16793 by Lech
Replied by Lech on topic Re: Card Idea: Baal's Caress
You can still dodge and s:ce, and use hand strikes and non-ranged strikes. Inferior skin of the adder also hose the opposing minion this way, nephandus too.

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Sabbat.Black Hand Shakar: Lech loathe ranged weapons. Once each action, he may burn 1 blood to become Camarilla Prince of Krakow until the end of the action.

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02 Dec 2011 13:52 #16796 by Ohlmann

It don't help against combat ends (and dodges), combat end is not ranged strike.


I would precise it then. The rulebook des not say explicitely if combat end is a ranged strike, it work as if it was a ranged strike, and while it may be clear for most person I believe a clarification or rule reminder would cost nothing and avoid questions.

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