Anthology set previews: April 17

I'll try to answer everyone.
First of all, our prioriy about cardtexts is clarity, and accuracy. Consistency is very important too, but if a card is clearer with a twist in the formulation, then we'll go for the clearest wording.
If two cards have exactly the same effect, both will have the same wording.

That being said, choices had to be made when we established the set of rules we are following. Those choices are complex and are still under progress, considering the amount of cards to review, all the special cases, and compatibility issues with older cards. Obviously, other choices that would have probably been valid too were possible.

With that in mind:

the1andonlime wrote:

Why doesn't Enkil Cog use the new "attached" wording? Shouldn't it say "the attached vampire" instead of "this vampire"?

Kinda feels like we're going back to the problem of inconsistent wording across cards.

Attached is an alias for "the <whatever> with this card". It's used when there are multiple actors that are similar (two vampires for instance, one acting and one being a target typically) to remove any ambiguity. If there's no ambiguity, there's no need to use it.
Enkil Cog mentions only one minion, so there's no ambiguity when refering to "this vampire".

TwoRazorReign wrote:

My question is, is Enkil Cog attached to the vampire? From the new addition to the rulebook, I believe it is.

Correct.

TwoRazorReign wrote:

That's a good point about inconsistent wording. Here's another one: why does Madness Network say "follow normal sequencing rules," but Enkil Cog does not? Is this just inconsistent application of "reminder" text, or do the two cards work differently in terms of sequencing?

Reminder texts are, by definition, optional. They are just a reminders of the rules.
Depending on the nature of the card and the space available, reminder texts are present or not. Of course, both Madness Network and Enkil Cog (as well as 99.99% of the cards) follow the "normal sequencing rules". That's a reason why we have a strict rule now about parenthesis: only reminder text can be between parenthesis to avoid confusion. For instance, "Cancel that card (no cost is paid)" was changed to "Cancel that card, and its cost is not paid" because not paying the cost of a cancelled card is not the behavior described in the rules.

TwoRazorReign wrote:

And when exactly does a bleed resolve? Should Enkil Cog say "after resolution of a successful bleed action? Doesn't a bleed action resolve with either an unsuccessful (0 or less) or successful (1 or greater) bleed?

Currently, a bleed is always part of a bleed action. In that case, if the bleed action is successful, the bleed resolves (= the effects of the bleed are applied, that is the target burns pool equal to the bleed amount) as part of the action resolution. (You could imagine a master card similar to Piper that would bleed a Methuselah with no action. Of course, the vampire won't be able to play Enkil Cog in that case since Enkil Cog is an action modifier, and there would be no action.)
A bleed is successful "if the action succeeds and the bleed amount is one or more" (per rule). If a bleed action that is not blocked has its bleed amount reduced to 0, then the bleed action is successful but the bleed is not.

TwoRazorReign wrote:

I'm confused as to whether Enkil Cog is played when the action resolves (part D in the Detailed Play Summary) or when the bleed is successful (Part C in the Detailed Play Summary).

Are you refering to part "HOW TO PERFORM ACTIONS - C. An attempt to block is resolved as follows:"? It doesn't say that the bleed would resolve during that step, could you be clearer?

TwoRazorReign wrote:

You say "bleed or bleed action." Are they different?

Yes.

TwoRazorReign wrote:

So, here's where the confusion is: a "bleed" is either successful or unsuccessful. It does not resolve much like a referendum of a political action doesn't resolve. A "bleed action" resolves with a successful or unsuccessful bleed.

Enkil Cog changed the word "action" to "bleed."
Why?

Because the only thing that matters is whether the vampire successfully bleeds the prey or not. Of course, in order to have a successful bleed, the action itself needs to be successful.

TwoRazorReign wrote:

Madness Network states to follow normal sequencing rules. Enkil Cog does not.
Why?

Both follow the normal rules because they don't explicitely say otherwise.

jamesatzephyr wrote:

If the fact that some cards are worded differently upsets you so, why not do something constructive and:

1) make a list, and
2) mail the Inner Circle?

Sure! Errors may slip through also, don't hesitate to report them.

TwoRazorReign wrote:

Your point about referendums is disingenuous and doesn't answer my question. Referendums resolve in Part C separately from the political action itself in Part D. I was referring to the resolution of the action having nothing to do with the referendum.

Political actions are too different from bleed actions for a valid comparison.

TwoRazorReign wrote:

Lönkka wrote:

TwoRazorReign, have you checked the wording for the upcoming revised version of Madness Network (opposed to the current one)?

Perhaps it is worded in the same way as the upcoming Enkil Cog reprint...

That's why I'm bringing it up. I'm wondering if the wordings will be consistent eventually.

Reminder texts are not taken into account when refering to consistency.

self wrote:

im having trouble reading the copyright text. What does it say?

It says: "Vampire: The Eternal Struggle® and © 2017 White Wolf Publishing AB"