Mirror Walk v. Obedience

Juggernaut1981 wrote:

Lucas Halton is not a reaction but an effect that triggers off a condition.

jamesatzephyr wrote:

Juggernaut1981 wrote:

Lucas Halton is not a reaction but an effect that triggers off a condition.

So's Aching Beauty, which is also given as an example of an effect in "a1".

It's also implied in [LSJ 20090731] that Change of Target can pre-empt the Aching Beauty pool damage. (Also a conversation with Pascal.)

LSJ wrote:

> v/ My Helena adv with Aching Beauty attempts a bleed action. My prey
> on 1 pool attempts to block. I decline to play stealth, can I play
> Change of Target on this action?
> Aching Beauty
> Put this card on a Toreador. If this Toreador is blocked, the
> controller of the blocking minion burns 1 pool (before combat occurs,
> if any).

Yes.

I would have expected "Yes (but still takes the pool damage)" if it went any other way.

> Your answer sounds like there is no such division - as if you skipped
> from a2 to b2. Let me ask this question, it will help me get things
> clear:
> If my acting Giovanni is blocked by a Camarilla vampire, can I play
> Promise of 1528 without burning 1 blood to the blocking vampire's
> Banshee Ironwail?
You could play it before burning the blood. But you'd still burn the blood (just
like the blocking Camarilla vampire would still tap).

jamesatzephyr wrote:

Ankha wrote:

Anyway, I think Lucas could use his special replacement effect, as it doesn't require an action going on.

"Once each turn, when Lucas blocks an action, he may burn a blood instead of tapping for the successful block (before combat occurs)."

"before combat occurs" is still during the action. Once the action has ended, you're no longer in the "before combat occurs" window.


(To skip the next round of questions: no, brackets don't always indicate reminder text.)