The KICKSTARTER Concept

Bloodlines Kickstarter:
174 vampires from the Heirs to the Blood Boosters (3x58) {All}
252 vampires from the Bloodlines and Legacies of the Blood Boosters (3x84) {no rares}
560 common cards from Heirs to the Blood (10 of every single common) {All}
up to 10 of each starter card from Heirs to the Blood, Anarchs, Kindred Most Wanted (over 500 cards)
up to 10 of each common from Bloodlines (over 500)
up to 10 of each common from Legacies of Blood (over 500)

Laibon Kickstarter:
1x of each Legacies of Blood Starter (4 decks)
112 vampires from the Legaices of Blood Clans, (2x56) {not every single one}
up to 10 of each starter card from Legacies of Blood (over 500 cards)
up to 10 of each common from Third Edition (over 600 total)
up to 10 of each starter card from Black Hand, Anarchs, Camarilla Edition, Third Edition (~600)
up to 10 of each common from Ebony Kingdom (~200)
up to 10 of each common from Legacies of Blood (~200)

The Laibon and Bloodlines Kickstarters have been made available.

shop.ebay.com/thelasombra/m.html

Adonai wrote:

fojtik wrote:

My question is what is correctly in "up to 10 of each common from Keepers of Tradition (over 700 total)"

Let's break it down so that you are sure to understand it.

up to 10
This indicates that there may be 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, or 10 of any card appearing in that rarity in that set. This means that there aren't 350 copies of Ambush and 350 copies of Bang Nakh.

of each common
There are no rares in this line of the description, also no uncommons and no starter only cards.

from Keepers of Tradition
There are no Jyhad backed cards, no cards from other sets included on this line.

(over 700 total)
There are more than 700 cards that match this description included in each of the 6 auctions that have this line of text.

Things not in that sentence that would answer your other question for you:

1) The most important item in a package of items is listed first in a sales list. That way the buyer knows what they are buying.

2) There are 100 different commons in that set. If there are less than 1,000 listed in the auction, then it is extremely unlikely that there are 10 of every single entry.

3) Ashur Tablets sell for ~$10 each. There is no reason to include them as the next to last line in the point of sale or to hide them. If there were Ashur Tablets in the package it would be in bold, extra tall/wide font, and flashing to guarantee the sale for a higher price. Selling these packages isn't about making money, its about getting usable cards, vampires and commons, to newer players.

4) There are 6 auctions with identical sets of 700+ commons from Keepers of Tradition. If anyone had 60 Deep Song, and was selling cards, they would obviously be selling those cards by themselves.

Let us know, fojtik, when your kickstarter is for sale and the price you want for it when you include those cards.

Now this is unnecessary. Why the hostility to interest in your sales?

I didn't find it that hostile. It was just direct.

And let's be fair - it should be obvious that cardpacks that are designed to give a starting/newer player a lot of workable cards wouldn't include multiple copies of several $10,- cards.

Izaak wrote:

And let's be fair - it should be obvious that cardpacks that are designed to give a starting/newer player a lot of workable cards wouldn't include multiple copies of several $10,- cards.

The value of Ashur Tablets or Deep Song may not be obvious to a starting player.

brandonsantacruz wrote:

Now this is unnecessary. Why the hostility to interest in your sales?

I agree, your post is unnecessary.
There is no hostility in my post, any tone of voice you attribute to my comments is purely in your mind.

Being an educated buyer is extremely important on ebay or you will buy a lot of trash that you never intended to receive. Learning how to parse a sales presentation is a critical skill that will carry over well to playing good V:TES due to understanding card interaction.

Also, ebay has a way for legitimate sales questions to be asked for the benefit of buyers. Ebay is the right place for that type of question.

When will you be selling your KICKSTARTERs Brandon?

Suoli,

Nor their utility, do you have a point here? I tihnk without those cards, it is a WONDERFUL value for new players.

David