Would this help newer players in your playgroup expand their collections and decks into sects that they haven't played in before?

The KICKSTARTER concept:

A selection of playable vampires along with all the commons that fit them.
Not every common from the sets mentioned would be included, for example,
the cards requiring Bloodlines disciplines would be skipped in all of the
non-Bloodlines kickstarters. Similarly, cards for the Independent disciplines would be skipped in Camarilla/Sabbat/Bloodlines kickstarters. Each kickstarter would also have dedicated pool/blood gain cards that might not specifically come from the stated sets. Specifically, there will be 10 Blood Dolls, 10 Minion Taps, and 5 Lilith's Blessing in each kickstarter. An assortment of promo cards will also be included in each kickstarter.

Anarchs Kickstarter:
2x Anarchs Gangs starter deck
1x Anarchs & Alastors Tournament Kit
up to 10 of each common from Keepers of Tradition (over 700 total)
up to 10 of each common from Anarchs (over 260)
up to 10 of each common from Twilight Rebellion (over 170)
up to 10 of each common from KMW, LotN, Gehenna (over 260)
5x uncommons from Camarilla Edition, Third Edition (over 140)
3x Fee Stakes promos + Infamous Insurgent (12 cards)
and either
2x Blood Shadowed Court starters (2x100 vampires)
or
2x 10th Anniversary vampires (2x136 vampires)

Bloodlines Kickstarter:
-coming later

Camarilla Kickstarter:
1x of each Keepers of Tradition Starter (4 decks)
2x Blood Shadowed Court starters (2x100 vampires)
up to 10 of each common from Keepers of Tradition (over 700 total)
up to 10 of each common from Gehenna (~300)
5x uncommons from Camarilla Edition (over 260)

Independent Kickstarter:
1x of each Lords of the Night starter (4 decks)
2x of each Independent vampire,(95x2=190)
up to 10 of each common from Lords of the Night (over 460)
up to 10 of each starter only card from Lords of the Night (over 420)
up to 10 of each common from Kindred Most Wanted (over 500)
up to 10 of each common from Gehenna (over 350)
up to 5 of each uncommon from Camarilla Edition/Third Edition/LoTN (over 140)

Laibon Kickstarter:
-coming later

Sabbat Kickstarter:
1x of each Third Edition starter (4 decks)
2x of each Sabbat vampire, group 3-4 (194x2=388)
up to 10 of each common from Third Edition (over 600 total)
up to 10 of each common from Black Hand, Sword of Caine (over 500)
up to 10 of each common from Gehenna (over 300)
up to 5 of each uncommon from Third Edition (over 330)


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The Laibon and Bloodlines KICKSTARTERs have not been assembled yet. The others have been assembled and will be on e-bay later this evening.

I'd be pretty tempted to get one or two of those for myself... Might be a good way to bulk out the collections of some of the newer guys!

The e-bay links are ready now, with pictures of each of the KICKSTARTERS.

shop.ebay.com/thelasombra/m.html

The kickstarter set looks like a good idea. Giving newer players a way to play Camarilla is of particular concern for me. I'll tell the players on the SF Bay yahoo group. Let us know how it goes!

It looks good. My question is what is correctly in "up to 10 of each common from Keepers of Tradition (over 700 total)"

I ask especially if there are these cards:

10x Rego Motus
10x No Trace
10x Eyes of Argus
10x Deep Song
10x Ashur Tablets

fojtik wrote:


Let's break it down so that you are sure to understand it.

up to 10
This indicates that there may be 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, or 10 of any card appearing in that rarity in that set. This means that there aren't 350 copies of Ambush and 350 copies of Bang Nakh.

of each common
There are no rares in this line of the description, also no uncommons and no starter only cards.

from Keepers of Tradition
There are no Jyhad backed cards, no cards from other sets included on this line.

(over 700 total)
There are more than 700 cards that match this description included in each of the 6 auctions that have this line of text.

Things not in that sentence that would answer your other question for you:

1) The most important item in a package of items is listed first in a sales list. That way the buyer knows what they are buying.

2) There are 100 different commons in that set. If there are less than 1,000 listed in the auction, then it is extremely unlikely that there are 10 of every single entry.

3) Ashur Tablets sell for ~$10 each. There is no reason to include them as the next to last line in the point of sale or to hide them. If there were Ashur Tablets in the package it would be in bold, extra tall/wide font, and flashing to guarantee the sale for a higher price. Selling these packages isn't about making money, its about getting usable cards, vampires and commons, to newer players.

4) There are 6 auctions with identical sets of 700+ commons from Keepers of Tradition. If anyone had 60 Deep Song, and was selling cards, they would obviously be selling those cards by themselves.

Let us know, fojtik, when your kickstarter is for sale and the price you want for it when you include those cards.

Bloodlines Kickstarter:
174 vampires from the Heirs to the Blood Boosters (3x58) {All}
252 vampires from the Bloodlines and Legacies of the Blood Boosters (3x84) {no rares}
560 common cards from Heirs to the Blood (10 of every single common) {All}
up to 10 of each starter card from Heirs to the Blood, Anarchs, Kindred Most Wanted (over 500 cards)
up to 10 of each common from Bloodlines (over 500)
up to 10 of each common from Legacies of Blood (over 500)

Laibon Kickstarter:
1x of each Legacies of Blood Starter (4 decks)
112 vampires from the Legaices of Blood Clans, (2x56) {not every single one}
up to 10 of each starter card from Legacies of Blood (over 500 cards)
up to 10 of each common from Third Edition (over 600 total)
up to 10 of each starter card from Black Hand, Anarchs, Camarilla Edition, Third Edition (~600)
up to 10 of each common from Ebony Kingdom (~200)
up to 10 of each common from Legacies of Blood (~200)

The Laibon and Bloodlines Kickstarters have been made available.

shop.ebay.com/thelasombra/m.html

Adonai wrote:


Now this is unnecessary. Why the hostility to interest in your sales?

I didn't find it that hostile. It was just direct.

And let's be fair - it should be obvious that cardpacks that are designed to give a starting/newer player a lot of workable cards wouldn't include multiple copies of several $10,- cards.

Izaak wrote:


The value of Ashur Tablets or Deep Song may not be obvious to a starting player.