Giovanni teach the Chain of Command to !Venture
14 Dec 2011 08:07 #18352
by johannes
Giovanni teach the Chain of Command to !Venture was created by johannes
Deck Name: Giovanni teach the Chain of Command to !Venture
Created By: Johannes
Description: Played this at the german championships with a distinctive lack of success, but I think it has potential. There are some immediate changes I have in mind, see below.
Crypt: (14 cards, Min: 26, Max: 38, Avg: 8,07)
2 Baldesar Rossellini aus for nec DOM POT8 Giovanni
2 Benedict Giovanni cel dom FOR nec POT6 Giovanni
1 Blackhorse Tanner AUS DOM FOR 7 Ventrue Antitribu
1 Edward Neally aus DOM FOR pre7 Ventrue Antitribu
4 Ignazio Giovanni obf DOM FOR NEC POT9 Giovanni
1 Joseph O`Grady aus cel DOM FOR7 Ventrue Antitribu
2 Lady Constancia AUS DOM FOR NEC POT10 Giovanni
1 Owain Evans cel pre AUS DOM FOR8 Ventrue Antitribu
Library: (90 cards)
Master (19 cards)
1 Anarch Troublemaker
1 Dis Pater
5 Effective Management
1 Giant`s Blood
5 Liquidation
2 Redeem the Lost Soul /* pure gold. most of the time 4 pool gain */
2 Vessel /* not really useful, lose them */
2 Wider View
Action (26 cards)
5 Chain of Command
1 Chair of Hades /* mildly useful, maybe better another far mastery */
1 Far Mastery /* not used in this tournament, but of course need it */
9 Govern the Unaligned /* need more. at least 12. was constantly looking for one */
4 Possession /* maybe one less, doesn´t have stealth which is bad */
1 Restoration /* can be replaced by govern if more blood gain master */
5 Sudario Refraction /* maybe one less */
Action Modifier (34 cards)
2 Bonding
6 Call of the Hungry Dead
1 Conditioning
5 Daring the Dawn
4 Foreshadowing Destruction
11 Freak Drive
1 Kiss of Ra, The
4 Seduction
Reaction (6 cards)
4 Deflection
1 Delaying Tactics
1 On the Qui Vive
Combat (4 cards)
4 Spiritual Intervention /* Maybe less. Often clogging my hand, but against any sort of combat useful (were saving me in R3 against CEL gun)
Ally (1 cards)
1 Carlton Van Wyk (Hunter) /* very useful, even if only for contesting */
This deck was last saved at 09:59:49 on 14.12.2011
Created By: Johannes
Description: Played this at the german championships with a distinctive lack of success, but I think it has potential. There are some immediate changes I have in mind, see below.
Crypt: (14 cards, Min: 26, Max: 38, Avg: 8,07)
2 Baldesar Rossellini aus for nec DOM POT8 Giovanni
2 Benedict Giovanni cel dom FOR nec POT6 Giovanni
1 Blackhorse Tanner AUS DOM FOR 7 Ventrue Antitribu
1 Edward Neally aus DOM FOR pre7 Ventrue Antitribu
4 Ignazio Giovanni obf DOM FOR NEC POT9 Giovanni
1 Joseph O`Grady aus cel DOM FOR7 Ventrue Antitribu
2 Lady Constancia AUS DOM FOR NEC POT10 Giovanni
1 Owain Evans cel pre AUS DOM FOR8 Ventrue Antitribu
Library: (90 cards)
Master (19 cards)
1 Anarch Troublemaker
1 Dis Pater
5 Effective Management
1 Giant`s Blood
5 Liquidation
2 Redeem the Lost Soul /* pure gold. most of the time 4 pool gain */
2 Vessel /* not really useful, lose them */
2 Wider View
Action (26 cards)
5 Chain of Command
1 Chair of Hades /* mildly useful, maybe better another far mastery */
1 Far Mastery /* not used in this tournament, but of course need it */
9 Govern the Unaligned /* need more. at least 12. was constantly looking for one */
4 Possession /* maybe one less, doesn´t have stealth which is bad */
1 Restoration /* can be replaced by govern if more blood gain master */
5 Sudario Refraction /* maybe one less */
Action Modifier (34 cards)
2 Bonding
6 Call of the Hungry Dead
1 Conditioning
5 Daring the Dawn
4 Foreshadowing Destruction
11 Freak Drive
1 Kiss of Ra, The
4 Seduction
Reaction (6 cards)
4 Deflection
1 Delaying Tactics
1 On the Qui Vive
Combat (4 cards)
4 Spiritual Intervention /* Maybe less. Often clogging my hand, but against any sort of combat useful (were saving me in R3 against CEL gun)
Ally (1 cards)
1 Carlton Van Wyk (Hunter) /* very useful, even if only for contesting */
This deck was last saved at 09:59:49 on 14.12.2011
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14 Dec 2011 08:09 - 14 Dec 2011 08:10 #18353
by johannes
Replied by johannes on topic Re: Giovanni teach the Chain of Command to !Venture
Of course the point of the deck is to Chain of Command for zero, bring out one guy, bleed for lots with daring the dawn which puts him to the ash heap. Then play possession or redeem the lost soul on him.
Looking at all the Auspex in the crypt Revelations might be worth it ..
Looking at all the Auspex in the crypt Revelations might be worth it ..
Last edit: 14 Dec 2011 08:10 by johannes.
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14 Dec 2011 21:51 #18490
by Kushiel
Replied by Kushiel on topic Re: Giovanni teach the Chain of Command to !Venture
Any particular reason you're using such big Giovanni? I know that CoC targets younger vampires, but since all the younger guys really need is DOM/for and there are plenty of those guys with capacity less than 8, it seems like it might be more efficient to stick to the two 8-cap Giovanni.
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14 Dec 2011 23:29 #18506
by Juggernaut1981




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Replied by Juggernaut1981 on topic Re: Giovanni teach the Chain of Command to !Venture
Johannes,
As a version of your deck (running on the Posession + Chain of Command + Burning Goons)...
Deck Name : Ignazio's Army of Fools
Author : Juggernaut1981
Description :
Ignazio Giovanni + Chain of Command/Daring the Dawn + Bleed style shennanigans
Crypt [16 vampires] Capacity min: 4 max: 9 average: 7.25
Library [83 cards]
Action [16]
6x Chain of Command
6x Possession
4x Scouting Mission
Action Modifier [40]
4x Command of the Beast
8x Conditioning
8x Daring the Dawn
4x Foreshadowing Destruction
6x Freak Drive
4x Safe Passage
6x Seduction
Equipment [1]
1x Sargon Fragment, The
Event [2]
2x Break the Code
Master [16]
2x From a Sinking Ship
2x Golconda: Inner Peace
2x Perfectionist
4x Wider View
6x Zillah's Valley
Reaction [8]
8x Deflection
As a version of your deck (running on the Posession + Chain of Command + Burning Goons)...
Deck Name : Ignazio's Army of Fools
Author : Juggernaut1981
Description :
Ignazio Giovanni + Chain of Command/Daring the Dawn + Bleed style shennanigans
Crypt [16 vampires] Capacity min: 4 max: 9 average: 7.25
6x | Ignazio Giovanni | (9) | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Giovanni | (group 3) | |
1x | Lucita | (8) | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Lasombra | (group 2) | |
1x | Victorine Lafourcade | (8) | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | prince | Ventrue | (group 3) |
1x | Blackhorse Tanner | (7) | ![]() ![]() ![]() | Ventrue antitribu | (group 3) | |
1x | Gracis Nostinus | (7) | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | primogen | Ventrue | (group 3) |
1x | Charice Fontaigne | (6) | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Ventrue antitribu | (group 3) | |
1x | Edward Vignes | (6) | ![]() ![]() ![]() | Ventrue | (group 3) | |
1x | Vanessa | (6) | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Ventrue antitribu | (group 2) | |
1x | Catherine du Bois | (5) | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Ventrue | (group 3) | |
1x | Ranjan Rishi, Camarilla Scholar | (5) | ![]() ![]() ![]() | Ventrue | (group 2) | |
1x | Ingrid Russo | (4) | ![]() ![]() | Ventrue antitribu | (group 2) |
Library [83 cards]
Action [16]
6x Chain of Command
6x Possession
4x Scouting Mission
Action Modifier [40]
4x Command of the Beast
8x Conditioning
8x Daring the Dawn
4x Foreshadowing Destruction
6x Freak Drive
4x Safe Passage
6x Seduction
Equipment [1]
1x Sargon Fragment, The
Event [2]
2x Break the Code
Master [16]
2x From a Sinking Ship
2x Golconda: Inner Peace
2x Perfectionist
4x Wider View
6x Zillah's Valley
Reaction [8]
8x Deflection





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15 Dec 2011 07:10 - 15 Dec 2011 07:10 #18522
by johannes
But on that note it might sense to drop the Freak Drive angle, go with much smaller Giovanni and just have more of them.
Replied by johannes on topic Re: Giovanni teach the Chain of Command to !Venture
Which two 8 caps? I can see only Baldesar Rossellini and the stinker as inferior necromancy and fortitude so he cant even play possession and not freak after being blocked.Any particular reason you're using such big Giovanni? I know that CoC targets younger vampires, but since all the younger guys really need is DOM/for and there are plenty of those guys with capacity less than 8, it seems like it might be more efficient to stick to the two 8-cap Giovanni.
But on that note it might sense to drop the Freak Drive angle, go with much smaller Giovanni and just have more of them.
Last edit: 15 Dec 2011 07:10 by johannes.
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15 Dec 2011 16:28 #18557
by Kushiel
Derp! I was trying to multitask while posting, and I should never ever attempt to multitask. Apparently I made up some crypt cards in my head that don't exist. Sorry.
Yeah, that would definitely cut down on your moving parts, since that eliminates not only the action/Freak Drive/action chain, but also the need for a lot of bloodgain.
Replied by Kushiel on topic Re: Giovanni teach the Chain of Command to !Venture
Which two 8 caps? I can see only Baldesar Rossellini and the stinker as inferior necromancy and fortitude so he cant even play possession and not freak after being blocked.
Derp! I was trying to multitask while posting, and I should never ever attempt to multitask. Apparently I made up some crypt cards in my head that don't exist. Sorry.
But on that note it might sense to drop the Freak Drive angle, go with much smaller Giovanni and just have more of them.
Yeah, that would definitely cut down on your moving parts, since that eliminates not only the action/Freak Drive/action chain, but also the need for a lot of bloodgain.
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