Weenie DEM Target Vitals
11 Apr 2012 14:25 #27655
by Demnogonis Saastuttaja
Weenie DEM Target Vitals was created by Demnogonis Saastuttaja
I wanted to make a fun weenie bleed deck that has the ability to stealth when somebody is just defending with everybody untapped and also enough violence that some pesky interceptors without enough combat can be killed off. In a sense it's very similar to a lot of weenie decks I have played, but any successful bleed action gives you pool. So my strategy is simply to swarm, it's really quite simple. This is the first draft, the metagame is seemingly changing from timeout do nothing style to actually trying to oust, which I really like.
There are a lot of possibilities on how to change this deck. I could fiddle the crypt in such a way that there's enough superior Auspex to have the possibility to bounce, always a good option. I thought about just playing Blood Dolls instead of Villein, because there's so many Taste of Vitaes. Or I could make this of some other discipline I haven't thought about. Really the goal here is to have a fun, aggressive weenie deck with the ordinary disciplineless combat (sans Pulled Fangs which I can't get anywhere). Could force it to be mostly Sabbat-based in which case there could be Abbots and also Toy.
Why I made it out of Dementation is because it doesn't matter that much to me whether or not it's superior (which it often isn't in the smaller guys), because it's more important to gain pool with KS, get the press from Deny and the stealth from Confusion is just for lunging as is all the stealth, really. Problems I have had with many weenie decks is the inability to sustain themselves because there's no pool gain, and the inability to oust somebody who's just leaving everything untapped.
And no, I'm not having any Personal Scourges here, no matter how funny it is
Deck Name : Horo
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Description :
Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity min: 2 max: 6 average: 4.08333
1x Gem Ghastly 6 DEM OBF aus primogen Malkavian:5
1x Morel 6 AUS DEM OBF Malkavian:4
1x Apache Jones 5 DEM aus for obf !Malkavian:4
1x Arthur Denholm 5 AUS DEM obf Malkavian:5
1x Beauregard Kruelle 4 aus dem obf !Malkavian:4
1x Fabrizia Contreraz 4 dem pot archbishop !Malkavian:4
1x Keller Thiel 4 aus dem Malkavian:5
1x Sean Rycek 4 aus dem Malkavian:4
1x Bela 3 DEM ani obf pro Malkavian:5
1x Jackie 3 DEM !Malkavian:4
1x Marta 3 aus dem !Malkavian:4
1x Cassandra Langely, 2 dem Malkavian:4
Library [90 cards]
Action [14]
14x Kindred Spirits
Action Modifier [12]
8x Confusion
4x Mind Tricks
Action Modifier/Combat [8]
8x Deny
Ally [2]
1x Carlton Van Wyk (Hunter)
1x Muddled Vampire Hunter
Combat [26]
2x Glancing Blow
8x Target Vitals
8x Taste of Vitae
6x Weighted Walking Stick
2x Zip Gun
Master [18]
1x Anarch Troublemaker
2x Dementation
2x Dreams of the Sphinx
1x Giant's Blood
3x Haven Uncovered
2x Lilith's Blessing
1x Pentex(TM) Subversion
6x Villein
Reaction [10]
6x On the Qui Vive
4x Wrong and Crosswise
Crafted with : Anarch Revolt Deck Builder. [Wed Apr 11 18:52:14 2012]
There are a lot of possibilities on how to change this deck. I could fiddle the crypt in such a way that there's enough superior Auspex to have the possibility to bounce, always a good option. I thought about just playing Blood Dolls instead of Villein, because there's so many Taste of Vitaes. Or I could make this of some other discipline I haven't thought about. Really the goal here is to have a fun, aggressive weenie deck with the ordinary disciplineless combat (sans Pulled Fangs which I can't get anywhere). Could force it to be mostly Sabbat-based in which case there could be Abbots and also Toy.
Why I made it out of Dementation is because it doesn't matter that much to me whether or not it's superior (which it often isn't in the smaller guys), because it's more important to gain pool with KS, get the press from Deny and the stealth from Confusion is just for lunging as is all the stealth, really. Problems I have had with many weenie decks is the inability to sustain themselves because there's no pool gain, and the inability to oust somebody who's just leaving everything untapped.
And no, I'm not having any Personal Scourges here, no matter how funny it is

Deck Name : Horo
Author :
Description :
Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity min: 2 max: 6 average: 4.08333
1x Gem Ghastly 6 DEM OBF aus primogen Malkavian:5
1x Morel 6 AUS DEM OBF Malkavian:4
1x Apache Jones 5 DEM aus for obf !Malkavian:4
1x Arthur Denholm 5 AUS DEM obf Malkavian:5
1x Beauregard Kruelle 4 aus dem obf !Malkavian:4
1x Fabrizia Contreraz 4 dem pot archbishop !Malkavian:4
1x Keller Thiel 4 aus dem Malkavian:5
1x Sean Rycek 4 aus dem Malkavian:4
1x Bela 3 DEM ani obf pro Malkavian:5
1x Jackie 3 DEM !Malkavian:4
1x Marta 3 aus dem !Malkavian:4
1x Cassandra Langely, 2 dem Malkavian:4
Library [90 cards]
Action [14]
14x Kindred Spirits
Action Modifier [12]
8x Confusion
4x Mind Tricks
Action Modifier/Combat [8]
8x Deny
Ally [2]
1x Carlton Van Wyk (Hunter)
1x Muddled Vampire Hunter
Combat [26]
2x Glancing Blow
8x Target Vitals
8x Taste of Vitae
6x Weighted Walking Stick
2x Zip Gun
Master [18]
1x Anarch Troublemaker
2x Dementation
2x Dreams of the Sphinx
1x Giant's Blood
3x Haven Uncovered
2x Lilith's Blessing
1x Pentex(TM) Subversion
6x Villein
Reaction [10]
6x On the Qui Vive
4x Wrong and Crosswise
Crafted with : Anarch Revolt Deck Builder. [Wed Apr 11 18:52:14 2012]



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11 Apr 2012 15:04 #27656
by Ankha
Replied by Ankha on topic Re: Weenie DEM Target Vitals
No Escaped Mental Patient?
I'd play Aranthebes too, and maybe Bleeding the Vine (rather than the Lilith's Blessings)
I'd play Aranthebes too, and maybe Bleeding the Vine (rather than the Lilith's Blessings)
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11 Apr 2012 15:32 #27657
by Suoli
Replied by Suoli on topic Re: Weenie DEM Target Vitals
Consider Ossian and Impundulu, they contribute to the attrition angle and play well with Target: Vitals (assuming there's an Uncovered Haven in the case of Impundulu).
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11 Apr 2012 19:15 #27682
by Ohlmann
Replied by Ohlmann on topic Re: Weenie DEM Target Vitals
If you have one, one Uncoiling may be helpful, depending on your meta. You don't play any event, and the card is often helpful.
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11 Apr 2012 23:47 #27699
by Klaital
Replied by Klaital on topic Re: Weenie DEM Target Vitals
I would switch the villeins to tribute to the masters (and reduce the total amount to 4), and add some veil the legions for help with the stealth, any chump with basic obfuscate can use it to give stealth to any of your guys. Also overall mono dem works much better with group 2-3 that has truly awesome crypt for it with Eddie Gaines, Boy Toy, Gillian Krader, Yorik, Midget, Adelaide Davis, Claven, Jeremy Talbot, Persia, Uncle George, Muriel Foucade, and then your choice of either Dolphin or a 5 cap with basic dem.
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12 Apr 2012 06:03 #27719
by alek

The deck itself looks very solid. I would consider following changes:
1. changing the crypt to group 2-3, like Klaital mentioned
2. Putting more dementation masters. IMO superior DEM is very important in this deck. You need this for offense - additional bleed for kindred spirits and eyes of chaos which should be added to the deck
3. changing a master package to include some suddens. Maybe changing villeins to blood dolls or tributes
4. Adding 2 delaying tactics
5. Sliming deck size to 80
Replied by alek on topic Re: Weenie DEM Target Vitals
o yea, that's a lot of funI wanted to make a fun weenie bleed deck

The deck itself looks very solid. I would consider following changes:
1. changing the crypt to group 2-3, like Klaital mentioned
2. Putting more dementation masters. IMO superior DEM is very important in this deck. You need this for offense - additional bleed for kindred spirits and eyes of chaos which should be added to the deck
3. changing a master package to include some suddens. Maybe changing villeins to blood dolls or tributes
4. Adding 2 delaying tactics
5. Sliming deck size to 80
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