Starvation Weenies
20 Apr 2012 08:52 - 21 Apr 2012 09:07 #28214
by Demnogonis Saastuttaja
Starvation Weenies was created by Demnogonis Saastuttaja
I got around a new idea for a weenie vitals deck. I thought that Starvation is a perfect strike for it, it's ranged and it doesn't much matter if it's superior or not, and has a press. It does not actually matter a lot if vicissitude is superior with these guys, but with LB, why not have some master disciplines?
The plan is simple. Swarm, bleed, there's only a little defense but the pool costs are, in the end, minimal and aggression around here isn't all that popular.
Deck Name : Starvation
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Description :
Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity min: 1 max: 6 average: 3.91667
2x Ana Rita Montana 5 VIC aus dom obf Tzimisce:3
1x Violet Tremain 6 dom pre tha vic bishop Tzimisce:2
1x Enid Blount 5 aus dom pre vic Toreador:3
1x Rose, The 5 PRE VIC aus Tzimisce:3
1x Hugo 4 POT pre vic !Brujah:2
1x Lolita Houston 4 VIC aus Tzimisce:2
1x Ramiro 4 dom obt vic Lasombra:2
1x Terrence 4 ani aus vic Tzimisce:2
1x Christine Boscacci 2 dom vic Pander:2
1x Horatio 2 vic Tzimisce:2
1x Olga Triminov 1 vic Pander:3
Library [80 cards]
Action [10]
2x Abbot
4x Fiendish Tongue
2x Nose of the Hound
1x Tasha Morgan
1x J.S. Simmons, Esq.
Action Modifier [10]
8x Changeling
2x Conditioning
Ally [4]
3x Asanbonsam Ghoul
1x Carlton Van Wyk (Hunter)
Combat [28]
4x Chiropteran Marauder
8x Starvation of Marena
8x Target Vitals
4x Taste of Vitae
4x Inner Essence
Equipment [1]
1x Heart of Nizchetus
Master [15]
1x Anarch Troublemaker
3x Lilith's Blessing
1x Pentex(TM) Subversion
3x Vicissitude
1x Giant's Blood
6x Villein
Reaction [12]
4x Deflection
2x Delaying Tactics
6x On the Qui Vive
Crafted with : Anarch Revolt Deck Builder. [Fri Apr 20 13:45:37 2012]
The plan is simple. Swarm, bleed, there's only a little defense but the pool costs are, in the end, minimal and aggression around here isn't all that popular.
Deck Name : Starvation
Author :
Description :
Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity min: 1 max: 6 average: 3.91667
2x Ana Rita Montana 5 VIC aus dom obf Tzimisce:3
1x Violet Tremain 6 dom pre tha vic bishop Tzimisce:2
1x Enid Blount 5 aus dom pre vic Toreador:3
1x Rose, The 5 PRE VIC aus Tzimisce:3
1x Hugo 4 POT pre vic !Brujah:2
1x Lolita Houston 4 VIC aus Tzimisce:2
1x Ramiro 4 dom obt vic Lasombra:2
1x Terrence 4 ani aus vic Tzimisce:2
1x Christine Boscacci 2 dom vic Pander:2
1x Horatio 2 vic Tzimisce:2
1x Olga Triminov 1 vic Pander:3
Library [80 cards]
Action [10]
2x Abbot
4x Fiendish Tongue
2x Nose of the Hound
1x Tasha Morgan
1x J.S. Simmons, Esq.
Action Modifier [10]
8x Changeling
2x Conditioning
Ally [4]
3x Asanbonsam Ghoul
1x Carlton Van Wyk (Hunter)
Combat [28]
4x Chiropteran Marauder
8x Starvation of Marena
8x Target Vitals
4x Taste of Vitae
4x Inner Essence
Equipment [1]
1x Heart of Nizchetus
Master [15]
1x Anarch Troublemaker
3x Lilith's Blessing
1x Pentex(TM) Subversion
3x Vicissitude
1x Giant's Blood
6x Villein
Reaction [12]
4x Deflection
2x Delaying Tactics
6x On the Qui Vive
Crafted with : Anarch Revolt Deck Builder. [Fri Apr 20 13:45:37 2012]



Last edit: 21 Apr 2012 09:07 by Demnogonis Saastuttaja.
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20 Apr 2012 09:38 #28218
by Juggernaut1981




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Replied by Juggernaut1981 on topic Re: Starvation Weenies
Not sure why this deck isn't using Tribute to the Master instead of Villein.





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20 Apr 2012 09:45 - 20 Apr 2012 09:48 #28220
by Demnogonis Saastuttaja
Replied by Demnogonis Saastuttaja on topic Re: Starvation Weenies
Villein is a trifle and can instantly trigger Lilith's blessing, and also is nice with Taste of Vitae. So when the average capacity is roughly 4, with LB that's 4 pool + 3 blood + discipline, without it's 2 pool most of the time... Without LB Tribute is prob. better but with I consider Villein much better.



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20 Apr 2012 09:46 - 20 Apr 2012 09:48 #28221
by Demnogonis Saastuttaja
Replied by Demnogonis Saastuttaja on topic Re: Starvation Weenies
Oops, I meant to edit my post but instead quoted it.



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20 Apr 2012 10:02 #28224
by Juggernaut1981




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Replied by Juggernaut1981 on topic Re: Starvation Weenies
But you are planning to have 5+ vampires on the table. So you can easily get back 5+ pool, no pool cost, no need for hunting and so on. The problem I have with Villein is that it also penalises yourself for playing them on a minion over and over. Plus your minions won't ever be empty and you're only running 3 Vicissitude Masters anyway...
Plus I'm also surprised you don't have copies of Nose of the Hound included in there.
Plus I'm also surprised you don't have copies of Nose of the Hound included in there.





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20 Apr 2012 10:20 - 20 Apr 2012 10:25 #28227
by Demnogonis Saastuttaja
Replied by Demnogonis Saastuttaja on topic Re: Starvation Weenies
Ok. Let's say I turn out a 2-cap, two 4-caps and a 5-cap + 2 other vampires which will take two sets of four transfers and the amount of transfers of their capacity anyway. If I Villein 3 of these guys with LB, that would be the 4 and 5 caps, that's 13 pool + 9 blood + 3 fixed disciplines. Three Tributes, would be 12 pool, two hunts and no synergy with LB. With 5 guys it's 15 pool but still no free blood or anything. That's what I'm thinking, really. It all revolves around LB. Without it tribute gets significantly better in comparison.
Also if the fifth guy is a 5-cap, it's better to Villein / LB than Tribute. Villein / GB on a 4-cap is also pretty good and deprives others of GB.
I just think it's reasonable to play either, Villein/LB is more risky but more rewarding when it works. Also I don't even know where my tributes are so I didn't even consider using them. Usually I'd play Blood Dolls anyway whenever I use Taste of Vitae.
Nose of the Hound seems like a pretty good idea, thanks.
Also if the fifth guy is a 5-cap, it's better to Villein / LB than Tribute. Villein / GB on a 4-cap is also pretty good and deprives others of GB.
I just think it's reasonable to play either, Villein/LB is more risky but more rewarding when it works. Also I don't even know where my tributes are so I didn't even consider using them. Usually I'd play Blood Dolls anyway whenever I use Taste of Vitae.
Nose of the Hound seems like a pretty good idea, thanks.



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