oh golly
21 Aug 2012 12:54 - 21 Aug 2012 13:11 #35138
by mirddes
Deck Name : oh golly rev10
Author : scadden and thompson
Description :
Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity min: 7 max: 11 average: 9.66667
5x Malgorzata (9)
priscus Tremere antitribu (group 4)
3x Mistress Fanchon (11)
inner circle Tremere (group 4)
2x Sha-Ennu (11)
regent Tzimisce (group 4)
1x William Biltmore (9)
Malkavian (group 3)
1x Virstania, The Great Mother (7)
Tremere (group 3)
Library [90 cards]
Action [5]
5x Govern the Unaligned
Action Modifier [23]
6x Elder Impersonation
4x Forgotten Labyrinth
4x Lost in Crowds
9x Mirror Walk
Combat [13]
3x Body Arsenal
3x Flames of the Netherworld
7x Wind Dance
Master [38]
4x Effective Management
10x Golconda: Inner Peace
4x Information Highway
3x Obfuscate
3x Parthenon, The
10x Villein
4x Zillah's Valley
Reaction [11]
4x Deflection
4x Eyes of Argus
3x Telepathic Misdirection
Crafted with : Anarch Revolt Deck Builder. [Wed Aug 22 03:10:18 2012]
i suppose i have some explaining to do.
Author : scadden and thompson
Description :
Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity min: 7 max: 11 average: 9.66667
5x Malgorzata (9)





3x Mistress Fanchon (11)






2x Sha-Ennu (11)






1x William Biltmore (9)





1x Virstania, The Great Mother (7)





Library [90 cards]
Action [5]
5x Govern the Unaligned
Action Modifier [23]
6x Elder Impersonation
4x Forgotten Labyrinth
4x Lost in Crowds
9x Mirror Walk
Combat [13]
3x Body Arsenal
3x Flames of the Netherworld
7x Wind Dance
Master [38]
4x Effective Management
10x Golconda: Inner Peace
4x Information Highway
3x Obfuscate
3x Parthenon, The
10x Villein
4x Zillah's Valley
Reaction [11]
4x Deflection
4x Eyes of Argus
3x Telepathic Misdirection
Crafted with : Anarch Revolt Deck Builder. [Wed Aug 22 03:10:18 2012]
i suppose i have some explaining to do.
Last edit: 21 Aug 2012 13:11 by mirddes. Reason: thats better
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21 Aug 2012 13:07 #35140
by Ohlmann
Replied by Ohlmann on topic Re: oh golly
What is this i don't even
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21 Aug 2012 13:08 #35141
by Pascal Bertrand
Replied by Pascal Bertrand on topic Re: oh golly
You'd have to explain a bit this deck 
10 action modifiers costing blood
Body Arsenal over Chirptean Marauder (they all have it at superior)
Wind Dance over Read Intentions
no Lilith's Blessing to re-use those Obfuscate skill-cards
not a single banishment/Reins of Power / Ancient Influence / Political Stranglehold even though you have 11 votes
I suppose the plan is to get Malgorzata out first, and then use her ability to bring the other two chumps out. Other copies of Malgorzata are removed frmo the game while other copies of the 11-caps get Villein'd / Golconda'd.
What I'm afraid of is that you'll spend your turns with one offensive action. And in this deck, it's clearly not enough (as it's going to be a bleed for 5 at best).

10 action modifiers costing blood
Body Arsenal over Chirptean Marauder (they all have it at superior)
Wind Dance over Read Intentions
no Lilith's Blessing to re-use those Obfuscate skill-cards
not a single banishment/Reins of Power / Ancient Influence / Political Stranglehold even though you have 11 votes
I suppose the plan is to get Malgorzata out first, and then use her ability to bring the other two chumps out. Other copies of Malgorzata are removed frmo the game while other copies of the 11-caps get Villein'd / Golconda'd.
What I'm afraid of is that you'll spend your turns with one offensive action. And in this deck, it's clearly not enough (as it's going to be a bleed for 5 at best).
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21 Aug 2012 13:13 - 21 Aug 2012 13:15 #35142
by Ankha
Replied by Ankha on topic Re: oh golly
What a crappy deck! 
Ok, let's see.
Crypt [16 vampires] Capacity min: 9 max: 11 average: 10.125
7x Malgorzata (9)
priscus Tremere antitribu (group 4)
5x Mistress Fanchon (11)
inner circle Tremere (group 4)
4x Sha-Ennu (11)
regent Tzimisce (group 4)
I'll skip the crypt part because I don't want to do maths to know how many vampires you can expect to draw in a game to feed Malgorzata.
Library [90 cards]
Action [5]
5x Govern the Unaligned
I'm not sure what they are there for. I'll assume it's more for ousting than Governing down. Anyway, Sha-Ennu can't play it. Either switch to Changeling (VIC, +1 bleed or +1 stealth) or Conditioning to keep the ousting power high.
Action Modifier [23]
6x Elder Impersonation
4x Forgotten Labyrinth
4x Lost in Crowds
9x Mirror Walk
What are the Forgotten Labyrinth here for? Using Malgorzata's special? Anyway, I would change Forgotten + Lost in Crowds to Into thin Air. You won't be doing lots of actions so card flow isn't very important here, and it works on bleeds. I fear you do have to much stealth anyway. Changeling could replace some cards.
Combat [13]
3x Body Arsenal
3x Flames of the Netherworld
7x Wind Dance
Body Arsenal and Wind Dance are never used, and for a good reason: they are crap. Change them to some Chiropteran Marauder (maneuver or agg damage) for versatility. Maybe some Rego Motus could be fun too.
Master [38]
4x Effective Management
10x Golconda: Inner Peace
4x Information Highway
3x Obfuscate
3x Parthenon, The
10x Villein
4x Zillah's Valley
10 Golconda? Man, are you really expecting to need them so early and in such quantity? 5 should be enough. 10 Villein is a lot too. The obfuscate skill cards are quite unnecessary, if you plan to Golconda your vampires at some point. Add Pentex. Add some Suddens, because if your prey starts to Villein his own vampires, you'll never oust him.
Reaction [11]
4x Deflection
4x Eyes of Argus
3x Telepathic Misdirection
Conclusion: please add some ousting power and play a decent combat part. Play more versatile cards. Play some votes too, Reins of Power can do a lot of damage.

Ok, let's see.
Crypt [16 vampires] Capacity min: 9 max: 11 average: 10.125
7x Malgorzata (9)





5x Mistress Fanchon (11)






4x Sha-Ennu (11)






I'll skip the crypt part because I don't want to do maths to know how many vampires you can expect to draw in a game to feed Malgorzata.
Library [90 cards]
Action [5]
5x Govern the Unaligned
I'm not sure what they are there for. I'll assume it's more for ousting than Governing down. Anyway, Sha-Ennu can't play it. Either switch to Changeling (VIC, +1 bleed or +1 stealth) or Conditioning to keep the ousting power high.
Action Modifier [23]
6x Elder Impersonation
4x Forgotten Labyrinth
4x Lost in Crowds
9x Mirror Walk
What are the Forgotten Labyrinth here for? Using Malgorzata's special? Anyway, I would change Forgotten + Lost in Crowds to Into thin Air. You won't be doing lots of actions so card flow isn't very important here, and it works on bleeds. I fear you do have to much stealth anyway. Changeling could replace some cards.
Combat [13]
3x Body Arsenal
3x Flames of the Netherworld
7x Wind Dance
Body Arsenal and Wind Dance are never used, and for a good reason: they are crap. Change them to some Chiropteran Marauder (maneuver or agg damage) for versatility. Maybe some Rego Motus could be fun too.
Master [38]
4x Effective Management
10x Golconda: Inner Peace
4x Information Highway
3x Obfuscate
3x Parthenon, The
10x Villein
4x Zillah's Valley
10 Golconda? Man, are you really expecting to need them so early and in such quantity? 5 should be enough. 10 Villein is a lot too. The obfuscate skill cards are quite unnecessary, if you plan to Golconda your vampires at some point. Add Pentex. Add some Suddens, because if your prey starts to Villein his own vampires, you'll never oust him.
Reaction [11]
4x Deflection
4x Eyes of Argus
3x Telepathic Misdirection
Conclusion: please add some ousting power and play a decent combat part. Play more versatile cards. Play some votes too, Reins of Power can do a lot of damage.
Last edit: 21 Aug 2012 13:15 by Ankha.
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21 Aug 2012 13:14 #35143
by Ankha
Replied by Ankha on topic Re: oh golly
Lilith's Blessing can't "re-use" discipline cards (it only searches the library)no Lilith's Blessing to re-use those Obfuscate skill-cards
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21 Aug 2012 13:16 #35144
by mirddes
Replied by mirddes on topic Re: oh golly
sorry for the minor bait and switch.
chiropteran marauder does sound very very tempting
wind dance is a life saver against multiple strikes of agg
this crypt and library has been revised so many times im goign bonkers.
but yes, original idea consisted of a _much_ (35) larger crypt, idea is to gain 20+ pool every few turns.
any ideas on how to speed it up?
i like chiropteran marauder
chiropteran marauder does sound very very tempting
wind dance is a life saver against multiple strikes of agg
this crypt and library has been revised so many times im goign bonkers.
but yes, original idea consisted of a _much_ (35) larger crypt, idea is to gain 20+ pool every few turns.
any ideas on how to speed it up?
i like chiropteran marauder
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