Black Hand Recruitment
01 Jan 2014 20:21 - 01 Jan 2014 20:27 #58163
by librarian
Black Hand Recruitment was created by librarian
Deck Name: Black Hand Recruitment
Author: Shorb, inspired by Kuta and Dorrinal
Description:
I played vs Jeff Kuta's swarming Black Hand last week, and liked the idea. Added the Remover as suggested by Dorrinal in this thread here:
This is a link
1.) How do you intend to oust? Swarm bleed, at +1 stealth (Watchtower).
2.) How do you intend to keep from being ousted? Deflection, Bloat from Reunion Kamut, Powerbase, vote Defense with Delaying Tactics.
3.) What do you want your ready region to look like (ie, how many guys are you planning on getting out)? Midgame 5-6 vamps, Endgame up to 7-8 vampires.
4.) What do you want your average turn to look like? Recruit; Reunion; Equip or recruit with something.
5.) What's your metagame like? How do your opponents play? Walls and light combat. Typically 1 dedicated rush deck per 2 tables.
6.) What problems have you observed with the deck in play? Have not yet played.
7.) Why did you decide to use your particular crypt and library size? Crypt of 15: I need the Seraphs, but wanted smaller capacity average. I'm keeping Yazid for Dom, but he'd be the first to go. If I got rid of him I'd also get rid of Mariano and Nicomedes.
Crypt (Capacity min=1 max=8 avg=4.73; 15 cards)
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3x Banjoko 5 obt pot DOM Lasombra:3
1x Ermenegildo, The Rake 5 pot DOM OBT Lasombra:4
1x Katherine Stoddard 4 dom for !Ventrue:3
1x Kazimir Savostin 7 ani pot AUS VIC Tzimisce:3
1x Mariano Pomposo 4 aus cel pot !Brujah:3
1x Mosfair 4 cel dom tha !Tremere:4
1x Nicomedes 5 aus for nec vic Harbinger of Skulls:4
1x Olga Triminov 1 vic Pander:3
1x Piotr Andreikov 2 aus Tzimisce:3
1x Roger Farnsworth 4 aus OBF !Malkavian:3
1x Teresita, The Godmother 7 for ANI OBF POT !Nosferatu:3
1x Wah Chun-Yuen 5 cel dom pre POT !Brujah:3
1x Yazid Tamari 8 ani dom obf CEL QUI Assamite:3
Library (75 cards)
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Master (18 cards)
1x Archon Investigation
1x Direct Intervention
1x Fortschritt Library
1x Heidelberg Castle, Germany
1x Information Highway
1x Pentex(TM) Subversion
1x Powerbase: Montreal
8x Remover
1x Wash
2x Watchtower: The Wolves Feed
Event (1 cards)
1x Anthelios, The Red Star
Action (26 cards)
3x Black Hand Ritual
1x Chronicle of the Lost Tribe
9x Recruitment Exercise
10x Reunion Kamut
3x Tattoo Signal
Equipment (3 cards)
1x Codex of the Edenic Groundskeepers
1x Guarded Rubrics
1x Heart of Nizchetus
Retainer (2 cards)
1x J. S. Simmons, Esq.
1x Tasha Morgan
Action Modifier (14 cards)
5x Art of Memory, The
4x Change of Target
5x Stealth Ritus
Reaction (11 cards)
4x Deflection
2x Delaying Tactics
3x On the Qui Vive
2x Wake with Evening's Freshness
Created with Secret Library v0.9.4b. (Jan 1, 2014 23:19:37)
Author: Shorb, inspired by Kuta and Dorrinal
Description:
I played vs Jeff Kuta's swarming Black Hand last week, and liked the idea. Added the Remover as suggested by Dorrinal in this thread here:
This is a link
1.) How do you intend to oust? Swarm bleed, at +1 stealth (Watchtower).
2.) How do you intend to keep from being ousted? Deflection, Bloat from Reunion Kamut, Powerbase, vote Defense with Delaying Tactics.
3.) What do you want your ready region to look like (ie, how many guys are you planning on getting out)? Midgame 5-6 vamps, Endgame up to 7-8 vampires.
4.) What do you want your average turn to look like? Recruit; Reunion; Equip or recruit with something.
5.) What's your metagame like? How do your opponents play? Walls and light combat. Typically 1 dedicated rush deck per 2 tables.
6.) What problems have you observed with the deck in play? Have not yet played.
7.) Why did you decide to use your particular crypt and library size? Crypt of 15: I need the Seraphs, but wanted smaller capacity average. I'm keeping Yazid for Dom, but he'd be the first to go. If I got rid of him I'd also get rid of Mariano and Nicomedes.
Crypt (Capacity min=1 max=8 avg=4.73; 15 cards)
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3x Banjoko 5 obt pot DOM Lasombra:3
1x Ermenegildo, The Rake 5 pot DOM OBT Lasombra:4
1x Katherine Stoddard 4 dom for !Ventrue:3
1x Kazimir Savostin 7 ani pot AUS VIC Tzimisce:3
1x Mariano Pomposo 4 aus cel pot !Brujah:3
1x Mosfair 4 cel dom tha !Tremere:4
1x Nicomedes 5 aus for nec vic Harbinger of Skulls:4
1x Olga Triminov 1 vic Pander:3
1x Piotr Andreikov 2 aus Tzimisce:3
1x Roger Farnsworth 4 aus OBF !Malkavian:3
1x Teresita, The Godmother 7 for ANI OBF POT !Nosferatu:3
1x Wah Chun-Yuen 5 cel dom pre POT !Brujah:3
1x Yazid Tamari 8 ani dom obf CEL QUI Assamite:3
Library (75 cards)
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Master (18 cards)
1x Archon Investigation
1x Direct Intervention
1x Fortschritt Library
1x Heidelberg Castle, Germany
1x Information Highway
1x Pentex(TM) Subversion
1x Powerbase: Montreal
8x Remover
1x Wash
2x Watchtower: The Wolves Feed
Event (1 cards)
1x Anthelios, The Red Star
Action (26 cards)
3x Black Hand Ritual
1x Chronicle of the Lost Tribe
9x Recruitment Exercise
10x Reunion Kamut
3x Tattoo Signal
Equipment (3 cards)
1x Codex of the Edenic Groundskeepers
1x Guarded Rubrics
1x Heart of Nizchetus
Retainer (2 cards)
1x J. S. Simmons, Esq.
1x Tasha Morgan
Action Modifier (14 cards)
5x Art of Memory, The
4x Change of Target
5x Stealth Ritus
Reaction (11 cards)
4x Deflection
2x Delaying Tactics
3x On the Qui Vive
2x Wake with Evening's Freshness
Created with Secret Library v0.9.4b. (Jan 1, 2014 23:19:37)
Last edit: 01 Jan 2014 20:27 by librarian.
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01 Jan 2014 22:17 #58166
by ICL
Replied by ICL on topic Re: Black Hand Recruitment
Seems like way more Removers than you actually need. Missing The Hungry Coyote and The Sargon Fragment. Need more events to guarantee Wolves Feed. I'd also look for more ways to muck with voting, as crosstable vote hate would be not unexpected.
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02 Jan 2014 08:33 #58167
by Lönkka
Replied by Lönkka on topic Re: Black Hand Recruitment
Just one Gehenna Event (and one Fortschritt Library)?
Getting a Watchtower out might be verily dfficult (then again you only have two of those).
Getting a Watchtower out might be verily dfficult (then again you only have two of those).
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15 Jan 2014 03:24 #58603
by librarian
Replied by librarian on topic Re: Black Hand Recruitment
Sargon Fragment? Why?
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15 Jan 2014 13:42 #58615
by ReverendRevolver
Replied by ReverendRevolver on topic Re: Black Hand Recruitment
Your deck wont fimd good stealth as is. Add another anthelios and a blood trade. Maybe fuled by heartsblood if you lack blood trade and another anthelios, but its dnr clause hurts you a bit, and it encourages people to eat you 9 cap and lesz vamps.
You run 6seraphs, can have out 4@ once, will realistically have out Banjoko and one other once a game....
You shouldxrun seraphs second. As much tool up and remover as you run, it worth it. Add in the recruitment and kamut and theres no reason not to. Heck, you can art of memory it and use the same SS for multiple untaps, so 1 SS and 2 art of memories in hand, plus 2 removers means you easilycan tap 2 dudes and still bleed with the remover vamps. And still have a SS in hand.
70 cards is streamlined. 60 is real skinny. 90 is great for fluid combat and walls. You are at 75, with a combo you may never draw that gives you stealth. You neex stealth, you have 0 combat defense. So, addimg 2 gehenna cards and 3 seraphs second is probably a good idea.
Id drop pb monty. Its one pool for you then most likely a great grab for anyone who can play a secomd trad and thus trump your maximum stealth. We sometimes call it powerbase table timeout. If you cant keep it, or quickly rexlaim and then keep it if your crosstable needs it, dont play it.
Id use humgry coyote or pb barranquilla over monty here. Barranquilla may get burned, but its only going to give you pool until it does.
You run 6seraphs, can have out 4@ once, will realistically have out Banjoko and one other once a game....
You shouldxrun seraphs second. As much tool up and remover as you run, it worth it. Add in the recruitment and kamut and theres no reason not to. Heck, you can art of memory it and use the same SS for multiple untaps, so 1 SS and 2 art of memories in hand, plus 2 removers means you easilycan tap 2 dudes and still bleed with the remover vamps. And still have a SS in hand.
70 cards is streamlined. 60 is real skinny. 90 is great for fluid combat and walls. You are at 75, with a combo you may never draw that gives you stealth. You neex stealth, you have 0 combat defense. So, addimg 2 gehenna cards and 3 seraphs second is probably a good idea.
Id drop pb monty. Its one pool for you then most likely a great grab for anyone who can play a secomd trad and thus trump your maximum stealth. We sometimes call it powerbase table timeout. If you cant keep it, or quickly rexlaim and then keep it if your crosstable needs it, dont play it.
Id use humgry coyote or pb barranquilla over monty here. Barranquilla may get burned, but its only going to give you pool until it does.
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15 Jan 2014 14:06 #58618
by brandonsantacruz
Be careful when you fight the monsters, lest you become one.
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Cut Remover back to 2-3 copies. With such a small deck you would choke on too many copies. How many dudes will you be tapping per turn?
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