There appear to be a few rush guys in G3-4...
05 Jul 2011 19:53 - 07 Jul 2011 10:22 #5894
by Demnogonis Saastuttaja
Posting a lot this week it seems... Well, we have played often and there's a big tournament upcoming.
I just noticed how many POT rush guys there are in G3-4. And in addition to these there would still be Massassi and Jeremy McNeil ADV, who were left out due to not having Animalism nor +Strength.
So the plan goes as follows : devastate your predator, bloat, transfer out more rush guys. Play safe. There's 4 Gustaphes because he's the fastest to transfer out, and 4 Enkidu's because he's the strongest. While you may think it's unrealistic to transfer out every one of them, I'm an optimist and it would be just so cool
It attempts to oust an prey who has no minions left to defend with bleeds. I have had a similar deck with Black Annis and Enkidu that could do that, it just had a pretty different combat that mostly aimed for burning minions and had 10 Flesh of Marbles and 10 Drawings.
The combat module should be obvious. I don't think there's a lot of decks that are safe from that. Well there are some things, such as aggropokes and set range combat end, both which I consider so infrequent I don't care about them.
What else... Nothing I suppose, this is also a deck that I have not tried once. Somehow it seems like such a good idea in my head. Note that just Gustaphe and Enkidu in a situation where you just can't bring out more are still pretty intimidating rush minions.
Deck Name : pum
Author : Demnogonis
Description :
Hahaha!
Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity min: 8 max: 11 average: 9.41667
4x Enkidu, The Noah 11 ANI CEL OBF POT PRO for !Gangrel:4
4x Gustaphe Brunnelle 8 ANI DOM POT obf primogen Nosferatu:4
2x Black Annis 9 OBF POT ani pro !Nosferatu:4
1x Karsh 10 ANI CEL FOR POT PRO Gangrel:3
1x Jacques Molay 9 CEL POT PRE obf val !Brujah:4
Library [90 cards]
Action Modifier/Combat [6]
6x Swallowed by the Night
Combat [61]
3x Claws of the Dead
12x Carrion Crows
2x Fists of Death
14x Immortal Grapple
4x Pursuit
8x Taste of Vitae
8x Thrown Sewer Lid
10x Torn Signpost
Equipment [1]
1x Codex of the Edenic Groundskeepers
Event [1]
1x Dragonbound
Master [18]
1x Animalism
2x Fame
1x Giant's Blood
1x Information Highway
1x Wider View
3x Lilith's Blessing
8x Villein
1x Secure Haven
Retainer [3]
1x J. S. Simmons, Esq.
1x Robert Carter
1x Tasha Morgan
Crafted with : Anarch Revolt Deck Builder. [Wed Jul 06 00:35:54 2011]
I just noticed how many POT rush guys there are in G3-4. And in addition to these there would still be Massassi and Jeremy McNeil ADV, who were left out due to not having Animalism nor +Strength.
So the plan goes as follows : devastate your predator, bloat, transfer out more rush guys. Play safe. There's 4 Gustaphes because he's the fastest to transfer out, and 4 Enkidu's because he's the strongest. While you may think it's unrealistic to transfer out every one of them, I'm an optimist and it would be just so cool

It attempts to oust an prey who has no minions left to defend with bleeds. I have had a similar deck with Black Annis and Enkidu that could do that, it just had a pretty different combat that mostly aimed for burning minions and had 10 Flesh of Marbles and 10 Drawings.
The combat module should be obvious. I don't think there's a lot of decks that are safe from that. Well there are some things, such as aggropokes and set range combat end, both which I consider so infrequent I don't care about them.
What else... Nothing I suppose, this is also a deck that I have not tried once. Somehow it seems like such a good idea in my head. Note that just Gustaphe and Enkidu in a situation where you just can't bring out more are still pretty intimidating rush minions.
Deck Name : pum
Author : Demnogonis
Description :
Hahaha!
Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity min: 8 max: 11 average: 9.41667
4x Enkidu, The Noah 11 ANI CEL OBF POT PRO for !Gangrel:4
4x Gustaphe Brunnelle 8 ANI DOM POT obf primogen Nosferatu:4
2x Black Annis 9 OBF POT ani pro !Nosferatu:4
1x Karsh 10 ANI CEL FOR POT PRO Gangrel:3
1x Jacques Molay 9 CEL POT PRE obf val !Brujah:4
Library [90 cards]
Action Modifier/Combat [6]
6x Swallowed by the Night
Combat [61]
3x Claws of the Dead
12x Carrion Crows
2x Fists of Death
14x Immortal Grapple
4x Pursuit
8x Taste of Vitae
8x Thrown Sewer Lid
10x Torn Signpost
Equipment [1]
1x Codex of the Edenic Groundskeepers
Event [1]
1x Dragonbound
Master [18]
1x Animalism
2x Fame
1x Giant's Blood
1x Information Highway
1x Wider View
3x Lilith's Blessing
8x Villein
1x Secure Haven
Retainer [3]
1x J. S. Simmons, Esq.
1x Robert Carter
1x Tasha Morgan
Crafted with : Anarch Revolt Deck Builder. [Wed Jul 06 00:35:54 2011]



Last edit: 07 Jul 2011 10:22 by Demnogonis Saastuttaja.
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06 Jul 2011 11:15 #5929
by Klaital
Replied by Klaital on topic Re: There appear to be a few rush guys in G3-4...
61 combat cards... including 4 manuevers and 8 presses... pretty much anyone with a .44 magnum and handful of celerity can wreck you. Bone Spurs, Fists of Death, and Lids should all be more cards that help you get to close range. Like change lids to slams, an bone spurs and fists to mighty grapples for example. That aside, I don't really see how this deck can survive any half decent predator. Unless you draw that single info highway to start, you will most likely get your first guy out by turn 3, and second at turn 5 or 6. You also have no multiacting for your fatties, so even if you somehow do manage to survive your predator, you would have to go full backwards while your prey runs over the table.
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06 Jul 2011 11:37 #5932
by Pascal Bertrand
Replied by Pascal Bertrand on topic Re: There appear to be a few rush guys in G3-4...
14 IGs and 8 Lids? It's either long range or close range, you can't have both, and you probably won't be facing 22 rounds of combats with this deck.
Remove the Codex. It's probably the easiest way of getting your guy burned to AI.
Add some Drawing out the Beast / Terror Frenzies. That'll shut the CEL decks down (guns or Richter)
Remove the Codex. It's probably the easiest way of getting your guy burned to AI.
Add some Drawing out the Beast / Terror Frenzies. That'll shut the CEL decks down (guns or Richter)
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06 Jul 2011 11:52 - 06 Jul 2011 12:05 #5935
by brandonsantacruz
Be careful when you fight the monsters, lest you become one.
-Friedrich Nietzsche
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Replied by brandonsantacruz on topic Re: There appear to be a few rush guys in G3-4...
He's hoping to gain pool back quickly from Villein. I don't know how many games I've had a deck with 8-10 copies of a card and have never drawn it... risky plan. I'd drop 1-2xLilith's Blessing for Dreams, fit in an Archon Investigation, drop the retainers (no spare actions), change the lids to slams, bone spurs to claws of the dead, drop in some glancing blows and either some fake-outs or pursuits.
oh, how about protected resources and scourge of the enochians?
oh, how about protected resources and scourge of the enochians?
Be careful when you fight the monsters, lest you become one.
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06 Jul 2011 17:20 #5951
by Lönkka
After you've torporized everyone bleeding for one isnät an option when prey has plentiful pool.
Replied by Lönkka on topic Re: There appear to be a few rush guys in G3-4...
Certainly not!Remove the Codex.
After you've torporized everyone bleeding for one isnät an option when prey has plentiful pool.
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06 Jul 2011 20:45 #5967
by Adonai
Replied by Adonai on topic Re: There appear to be a few rush guys in G3-4...
Perhaps focus more on Enkidu and Karsh and add some Forced March?
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