Moving blood counters in the influence phase
11 Jul 2013 12:38 #51312
by Glinlos
Moving blood counters in the influence phase was created by Glinlos
Influence phase. There's a vampire in an uncontrolled region with 3 counters of blood, the active Matusalen place 2 fingers on two blood counters and drag the counters into his pool, and, without releasing the fingers from the counters, after the comment from another player, this active Matusalem return this two counters to the uncontrolled vampire.
Is this legal?
Or is assumed that the active matusalem has already spent the four tranfers and can not return the blood to the vampire?
After this movement of counters, has the active Matusalem spend any transfer?
Thanks
Is this legal?
Or is assumed that the active matusalem has already spent the four tranfers and can not return the blood to the vampire?
After this movement of counters, has the active Matusalem spend any transfer?
Thanks
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11 Jul 2013 12:44 #51313
by Ohlmann
Replied by Ohlmann on topic Re: Moving blood counters in the influence phase
There is no rule of "pool touched, pool played" in VtES. It may be seen as bad form, but as long as he didn't finish his turn or discarded a card, I would let him be. He don't have gained any information before changing his choice.
If he had used a discard action, thing would be different.
If he had used a discard action, thing would be different.
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11 Jul 2013 12:50 #51314
by Pascal Bertrand
Rule of thumb: make it clear before an event what "Move transfers" implies:
- counters are moved when they reach a card
- counters are moved when they are released on a card
- counters are moved when the Methuselah says so
etc.
Replied by Pascal Bertrand on topic Re: Moving blood counters in the influence phase
Up to the judge.Influence phase. There's a vampire in an uncontrolled region with 3 counters of blood, the active Matusalen place 2 fingers on two blood counters and drag the counters into his pool, and, without releasing the fingers from the counters, after the comment from another player, this active Matusalem return this two counters to the uncontrolled vampire.
Is this legal?
Depending on the tournament level, and pre-tournament announcements, I might judge this differently.Or is assumed that the active matusalem has already spent the four tranfers and can not return the blood to the vampire?
After this movement of counters, has the active Matusalem spend any transfer?
Thanks
Rule of thumb: make it clear before an event what "Move transfers" implies:
- counters are moved when they reach a card
- counters are moved when they are released on a card
- counters are moved when the Methuselah says so
etc.
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11 Jul 2013 13:13 #51315
by Glinlos
Replied by Glinlos on topic Re: Moving blood counters in the influence phase
Tounament level: The final on a Spanish European Qualifier
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11 Jul 2013 15:54 #51319
by KevinM
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"Know your enemy and know yourself; in one-thousand battles
you shall never be in peril." -- Sun Tzu, *The Art of War*
"Contentment...Complacency...Catastrophe!" -- Joseph Chevalier
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Replied by KevinM on topic Re: Moving blood counters in the influence phase
How about the FUN level?
I suggest playing VTES and not Magic and realizing that there is absolutely nothing at stake -- no money, no prizes of any value -- and just having fun.
I suggest playing VTES and not Magic and realizing that there is absolutely nothing at stake -- no money, no prizes of any value -- and just having fun.
Kevin M., Prince of Las Vegas
"Know your enemy and know yourself; in one-thousand battles
you shall never be in peril." -- Sun Tzu, *The Art of War*
"Contentment...Complacency...Catastrophe!" -- Joseph Chevalier
Please visit VTESville daily! vtesville.myminicity.com/
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11 Jul 2013 16:06 #51320
by Ohlmann
Some people find more fun in actually have no rollback for that kind of stuff. It's more common on chess players, but it's more important for people agreeing with the rule on thoses case than taking a lax approach.
Replied by Ohlmann on topic Re: Moving blood counters in the influence phase
How about the FUN level?
I suggest playing VTES and not Magic and realizing that there is absolutely nothing at stake -- no money, no prizes of any value -- and just having fun.
Some people find more fun in actually have no rollback for that kind of stuff. It's more common on chess players, but it's more important for people agreeing with the rule on thoses case than taking a lax approach.
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