Are Equipment effects done by the bearer?
02 Jul 2020 15:41 #100230
by Rémi
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Are Equipment effects done by the bearer? was created by Rémi
Dear all,
I control a minion which has an equipment. This equipment does something, from the rule point of view, is the bearer doing that effect?
A few examples:
Name: Talbot's Chainsaw
Unique weapon.
If the bearer is ready during your unlock phase, this weapon inflicts 3 unpreventable damage on a ready minion you control.
Name: Black Gloves
Bearer takes 1 damage during strike resolution when this weapon is used, but only once each combat.
Thanks in advance,
Regards,
Rémi.
I control a minion which has an equipment. This equipment does something, from the rule point of view, is the bearer doing that effect?
A few examples:
Name: Talbot's Chainsaw
Unique weapon.
If the bearer is ready during your unlock phase, this weapon inflicts 3 unpreventable damage on a ready minion you control.
Name: Black Gloves
Bearer takes 1 damage during strike resolution when this weapon is used, but only once each combat.
Thanks in advance,
Regards,
Rémi.
I am Rémi Cavaillé (), Barcelona (Spain). I was the Prince of Lyon (France) a long time ago around 2003
Enjoy VTES, Marvel Champions and more gaming activities in Khan Jugar:
sites.google.com/view/khanjugar/
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03 Jul 2020 06:00 #100234
by Ankha
Replied by Ankha on topic Are Equipment effects done by the bearer?
Could you be more specific?
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04 Jul 2020 16:23 #100250
by Hobbesgoblin
Replied by Hobbesgoblin on topic Are Equipment effects done by the bearer?
If I can hazard a guess, I would assume, in respect to the quoted cards "What is the soruce of the damage?" Is it coming from the Vampire wielding it, or is it environmental?
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04 Jul 2020 22:54 #100257
by Kushiel
Replied by Kushiel on topic Are Equipment effects done by the bearer?
Dunno if this is what Rémi is asking about, but this would work as a situation:
I have merged Helena in play (relevant card text: "Helena is immune to damage from demons"). I also have Abyssal Hunter (a demon) in play, which has equipped Talbot's Chainsaw (see card text above).
If the Hunter targets merged Helena with Talbot's three damage during the unlock phase, is she immune to it because it was damage from a demon?
I have merged Helena in play (relevant card text: "Helena is immune to damage from demons"). I also have Abyssal Hunter (a demon) in play, which has equipped Talbot's Chainsaw (see card text above).
If the Hunter targets merged Helena with Talbot's three damage during the unlock phase, is she immune to it because it was damage from a demon?
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05 Jul 2020 11:38 #100267
by Ankha
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This is a different situation from a demon striking with the Chainsaw, in which case the damage is considered to be inflicted by a demon and an equipment. Both Helena (immune to damage from demons) and Mictlantecuhtli (immune to damage from weapons) would both be immune to the damage of such a strike.
Replied by Ankha on topic Are Equipment effects done by the bearer?
No. The damage is inflicted by the Talbot Chainsaw, not the minion wielding it.I have merged Helena in play (relevant card text: "Helena is immune to damage from demons"). I also have Abyssal Hunter (a demon) in play, which has equipped Talbot's Chainsaw (see card text above).
If the Hunter targets merged Helena with Talbot's three damage during the unlock phase, is she immune to it because it was damage from a demon?
groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/Mz_fcIldfAY/Ys_W0MtwqLgJ
This is a different situation from a demon striking with the Chainsaw, in which case the damage is considered to be inflicted by a demon and an equipment. Both Helena (immune to damage from demons) and Mictlantecuhtli (immune to damage from weapons) would both be immune to the damage of such a strike.
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08 Jul 2020 15:03 #100286
by beslin igor
So Ankha in you example Mictlantecuhtli is immune from Talbot Chainsaw in both scenario,him dint take damage from Talbot Chainsaw text during unlock and him dint take damage from Talbot Chainsaw as strike,but in Helena scenario she take damage in unlock because damage inflict Talbot Chainsaw,but no take damage from strike Talbot Chainsaw if strike made by demons,right?
Replied by beslin igor on topic Are Equipment effects done by the bearer?
No. The damage is inflicted by the Talbot Chainsaw, not the minion wielding it.I have merged Helena in play (relevant card text: "Helena is immune to damage from demons"). I also have Abyssal Hunter (a demon) in play, which has equipped Talbot's Chainsaw (see card text above).
If the Hunter targets merged Helena with Talbot's three damage during the unlock phase, is she immune to it because it was damage from a demon?
groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/Mz_fcIldfAY/Ys_W0MtwqLgJ
This is a different situation from a demon striking with the Chainsaw, in which case the damage is considered to be inflicted by a demon and an equipment. Both Helena (immune to damage from demons) and Mictlantecuhtli (immune to damage from weapons) would both be immune to the damage of such a strike.
So Ankha in you example Mictlantecuhtli is immune from Talbot Chainsaw in both scenario,him dint take damage from Talbot Chainsaw text during unlock and him dint take damage from Talbot Chainsaw as strike,but in Helena scenario she take damage in unlock because damage inflict Talbot Chainsaw,but no take damage from strike Talbot Chainsaw if strike made by demons,right?
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