file Weenie Political

09 Apr 2012 07:09 #27481 by Almightyray
Weenie Political was created by Almightyray
This is my deck. It has worked great. People fear it's weenieness. To be fair, in my group, people game plan for this deck in a major way. Now I sound like a tool. But here's the deal, I know this deck works, no need for trolling how you'd beat it, just looking for suggestions on tuning.

Vampires;

Uma Hatch 3 - Brujah - Presence
Garret 3 - Brujah - Presence
Reginald Moore 4 - Brujah Primogen - Superior Presence
Vasilis 2 - Brujah, Presence
Roland Loussarian 3 - Ventrue - Presence
Gideon Fontaine 3 - Ventrue - Superior Presence
Violette Prentiss 4 - Ventrue - Superior Presence
Rufina Soledad 2 - Ventrue -
Igo The Hungry 1 - Caitiff - Presence
Antoinette DuChamp 2 - Caitiff - Presence
Smudge The Ignored 1 - Caitiff - Badass
Aimee Laroux 2 - Daughter - Presence

Library; 70 Cards

Hostile Takeover - 3
Slave Auction
Information Highway
Ventrue Headquarters
Warzone Hunting Ground
Uptown Hunting Ground
From a Sinking Ship
Elysium: The Arboretum
Presence: Skill - 2

Autarkis Persecution - 3
Conservative Agitation - 5
Kine Resources Contested - 3
Ventrue Justicar
Brujah Justicar
Disputed Territory
Peace Treaty
Dramatic Upheaval
Parity Shift
Beyond Reproach
Praxis Seizure: Boston
Praxis Seizure: Glasgow
Praxis Seizure: Venice
Praxis Seizure: Berlin
Praxis Seizure: Geneva
Praxis Seizure: Amsterdam
Praxis Seizure: Rome

Bribes - 4
Bewitching Oration - 6
Dread Gaze - 2
Cryptic Rider - 2

Wake With Evening's Freshness - 2

Majesty - 6

Legal Manipulations - 2

Zip Gun (Old) - 4
Dragon Breath Rounds - 4
Amaranth


And that is the deck. Suggestions?

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09 Apr 2012 07:12 #27482 by Pendargon
Replied by Pendargon on topic Re: Weenie Political
Deck is illegal, and therefore does not work.

Not trolling.

:QUI: :POT: :OBE: :CEL: :OBF: :tore: :assa:

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09 Apr 2012 07:15 #27484 by Almightyray
Replied by Almightyray on topic Re: Weenie Political
What is illegal? In my group we play card as read, with a limit of 6. I need clarity please.

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09 Apr 2012 07:21 #27485 by Pendargon
Replied by Pendargon on topic Re: Weenie Political
Then your group is imagining rules, and not playing vtes :

Your grouping rules are not met. You have vampires in group 4 (Reginald Moore), and Group 1 (Violette Prentiss, Gideon Fountaine).

Dramatic Upheaval is a banned card

:QUI: :POT: :OBE: :CEL: :OBF: :tore: :assa:

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09 Apr 2012 07:27 #27486 by Almightyray
Replied by Almightyray on topic Re: Weenie Political
We play what would be called Type 1: (All Cards)

I did not understand that this was frowned upon.

Also, Dramatic Upheaval is banned? Why did they print it? Where is the newsletter? I have not heard this, not that I am not re-new to the VTES scene; (Transplant from 1995 to 2011 trying to figure it out)

Not playing Tourney here, just playing VTES. What documents should I read and then ignore please?

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09 Apr 2012 07:29 - 09 Apr 2012 07:31 #27487 by extrala
Replied by extrala on topic Re: Weenie Political

What is illegal? In my group we play card as read, with a limit of 6. I need clarity please.

Oh, where to start ..

First of of all, your playgroup and you are free to use whatever VtES rules you want to adhere to in your games. Have fun is the first rule!

However, in VEKN sanctioned tournaments there are several issues with the deck:
1. It contains banned cards (Dramatic Upheaval).
2. The grouping rules (for vampires) are ignored. You cannot have Gideon Fontaine and Reginald Moore in the same crypt).

While not illegal to include cards you cannot actually played, in tournaments cards are always used with the latest cardtext. Therefore Zip Gun + Dragon Breath's Round does not work.

In addition a card limit of 6 (6CL) is not enforced in VtES.

With all this in mind, I am not really willing to spend time advising on how to improve this .. thing. :/

EDIT: The information about banned cards (and other tournament related rules) are in the VEKN tournament rules
Last edit: 09 Apr 2012 07:31 by extrala.
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