Do you merge vampires?
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31 Dec 2014 10:35 - 31 Dec 2014 12:09 #68390
by Ankha
Do you merge vampires? was created by Ankha
The options are limited in size, so here's the detail:
Please explain why / why not.
- Yes, occasionally, I have decks relying on merged vampires
- Yes, but not frequently (I have decks with a copy of the base or adv version, just in case)
- No, no merged vampire is worth being in a deck
- No, I'd like to but it's too slow / too complicated / not worth the effort / doesn't work well (crypt building, merged mecanism)
Please explain why / why not.
Last edit: 31 Dec 2014 12:09 by Ankha.
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31 Dec 2014 10:35 #68391
by Ankha
Replied by Ankha on topic Re: Do you merge vampires?
For my part, I find there are some nice vampire once merged, but it's a bit complicated to use them casually.
Star vampires are maybe an exception, because I'd probably include 5 copies of the base version anyway and just add 1 copy of the merged version (or 4+1). It makes the crypt somehow unbalanced but not more than for a star vampire.
Eg. Nergal + Nergal adv
The real trouble is for non-star vampires: it doesn't work well.
Let's take for instance some Carna deck with Valerius Major. You'd probably be forced to play 3 Valerius adv + 1 base, because the advanced version has the nice anti-obf special.
But then your crypt is a bit crippled, and you can't play Epiphany (works only with base version).
If you merge it manually, it takes an extra turn which is quite a penalty when you intend to bring out 2 more vampires.
If you use Wider View, you'll even probably need 1 extra turn to fetch the right version (if you're lucky), for a total of 2 turns.
Star vampires are maybe an exception, because I'd probably include 5 copies of the base version anyway and just add 1 copy of the merged version (or 4+1). It makes the crypt somehow unbalanced but not more than for a star vampire.
Eg. Nergal + Nergal adv
The real trouble is for non-star vampires: it doesn't work well.
Let's take for instance some Carna deck with Valerius Major. You'd probably be forced to play 3 Valerius adv + 1 base, because the advanced version has the nice anti-obf special.
But then your crypt is a bit crippled, and you can't play Epiphany (works only with base version).
If you merge it manually, it takes an extra turn which is quite a penalty when you intend to bring out 2 more vampires.
If you use Wider View, you'll even probably need 1 extra turn to fetch the right version (if you're lucky), for a total of 2 turns.
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31 Dec 2014 10:46 #68392
by thelonius reloaded
Lurking in the underground of Bologna, Italy
Replied by thelonius reloaded on topic Re: Do you merge vampires?
i love merging for 2 main reasons:
1) there are vampires who get a real boost merging, even if their "basic form" (ty pokemon) is good (eg Lucita or Nergal)
2) on the RPG side, it means character has somehow evolved and story has continued to grow
1) there are vampires who get a real boost merging, even if their "basic form" (ty pokemon) is good (eg Lucita or Nergal)
2) on the RPG side, it means character has somehow evolved and story has continued to grow
Lurking in the underground of Bologna, Italy
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31 Dec 2014 12:28 #68396
by Nictuku
Replied by Nictuku on topic Re: Do you merge vampires?
i use epiphany when i build a deck around ADV vampire. Last time used Sarrasine, and now I'm thinking to try Al Ashrad...
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31 Dec 2014 20:46 #68403
by ICL
Replied by ICL on topic Re: Do you merge vampires?
I like the idea. The gains are often awful. I had a deck where I ran both Sutphens because it seemed interesting. It killed me when I drew both and had one less uncontrolled vamp.
Still, since I do all kinds of things, I'll have decks that merge or that have multiple merges.
Still, since I do all kinds of things, I'll have decks that merge or that have multiple merges.
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31 Dec 2014 22:07 #68404
by Dorrinal
Replied by Dorrinal on topic Re: Do you merge vampires?
Of course I merge. How am I supposed to pay for all these Assault Rifles without investing my pool wisely?
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