Kyoko Shinsegawa
28 Apr 2013 09:20 #47859
by Zenedar
Kyoko Shinsegawa was created by Zenedar
Kyoko Shinsegawa
[aus]
[cel]
[dom]
[for]
[Tremere] Tremere
Capacity: 5
Group: 3
Camarilla: Kyoko cannot hunt as normal. She may hunt by stealing a blood from another ready vampire as a +1 stealth
action.
So she hunts by stealing blood. Can she do this multiple times in a row like a normal hunt?
[aus]
[cel]
[dom]
[for]
[Tremere] Tremere
Capacity: 5
Group: 3
Camarilla: Kyoko cannot hunt as normal. She may hunt by stealing a blood from another ready vampire as a +1 stealth

So she hunts by stealing blood. Can she do this multiple times in a row like a normal hunt?
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28 Apr 2013 09:43 #47860
by derjudge
Replied by derjudge on topic Re: Kyoko Shinsegawa
No.
The hunt action is not affected by the NRA, because the hunt action is not an effect on a card (and is nor a bleed action, nor a politcal action), like diablerie action, or rescue torpor.
But the Kyoko's hunt action is an effect on a card (her cardtext). So her hunt-action is affected by the NRA.
The hunt action is not affected by the NRA, because the hunt action is not an effect on a card (and is nor a bleed action, nor a politcal action), like diablerie action, or rescue torpor.
But the Kyoko's hunt action is an effect on a card (her cardtext). So her hunt-action is affected by the NRA.
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28 Apr 2013 10:05 #47861
by Ke.
Replied by Ke. on topic Re: Kyoko Shinsegawa
If she has Aaron's Feeding Razor she also steals an additional blood.
Not sure about Hospital Food and the Anarch Free Press — but if they also work then she could potentially steal 4 blood with one action...
Not sure about Hospital Food and the Anarch Free Press — but if they also work then she could potentially steal 4 blood with one action...
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28 Apr 2013 10:31 #47862
by derjudge
Replied by derjudge on topic Re: Kyoko Shinsegawa
yes for hospital food, no for anarch free press (the cardtext says "that anarch an extra blood from the blood bank"
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28 Apr 2013 15:29 #47865
by Lönkka
If (anarch) Kyoko's hunt is succesful can't she tap AFP to get the extra blood from blood bank? It doesn't specify where the bood is being hunted but AFP does specify there the extra blood it gives comes from.
Replied by Lönkka on topic Re: Kyoko Shinsegawa
Hmmm?yes for hospital food, no for anarch free press (the cardtext says "that anarch an extra blood from the blood bank"
If (anarch) Kyoko's hunt is succesful can't she tap AFP to get the extra blood from blood bank? It doesn't specify where the bood is being hunted but AFP does specify there the extra blood it gives comes from.
You may tap this card when an anarch successfully hunts to give that anarch an extra blood from the blood bank.
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28 Apr 2013 15:54 - 28 Apr 2013 18:05 #47873
by Adonai
Yes.
It doesn't remove an extra blood from her victim, is what derjudge was trying to convey.
LSJ took on this type of question in the May 19, 2003 Rules Team Rulings .
Alternate Hunt Actions (REVERSAL): Previously, modifications to the amount gained by special hunt actions (Legacy of Caine, Week of Nightmares, etc.) could not be made, but other modifications (to stealth, say) were allowed. The restriction against modifying the amount is now dropped. Any hunt modification (Aaron's Razor, Hesha, etc.) is allowed on special hunts (Legacy of Caine, Week of Nightmares, etc.), following card text. Note that card text on Festivo dello Estinto and Inbase Discotek explicitly move the additional blood from the blood bank (rather than from the new, non-default, target of the hunt).
Specifically
Aaron's Feeding Razor, Amadeo, Hesha Ruhadze, Hungry Coyote, Succulent Vitae (superior), Tainted Vitae move additional blood, if available, from the source to the hunter.
Festivo dello Estinto the successful hunter, after gaining blood from whatever source, fills up with blood from the blood bank.
Foul Blood the hunter takes 1 less blood from the source.
Immaculate Vitae (superior), Masquerade Endangered, Vampiric Disease no blood is moved from the source.
Inbase Discotek, Frankfurt the hunter, after gaining a blood from whatever source, gains a blood from the blood bank.
Replied by Adonai on topic Re: Kyoko Shinsegawa
If (anarch) Kyoko's hunt is succesful can't she tap AFP to get the extra blood from blood bank?
Yes.
It doesn't remove an extra blood from her victim, is what derjudge was trying to convey.
LSJ took on this type of question in the May 19, 2003 Rules Team Rulings .
Alternate Hunt Actions (REVERSAL): Previously, modifications to the amount gained by special hunt actions (Legacy of Caine, Week of Nightmares, etc.) could not be made, but other modifications (to stealth, say) were allowed. The restriction against modifying the amount is now dropped. Any hunt modification (Aaron's Razor, Hesha, etc.) is allowed on special hunts (Legacy of Caine, Week of Nightmares, etc.), following card text. Note that card text on Festivo dello Estinto and Inbase Discotek explicitly move the additional blood from the blood bank (rather than from the new, non-default, target of the hunt).
Specifically
Aaron's Feeding Razor, Amadeo, Hesha Ruhadze, Hungry Coyote, Succulent Vitae (superior), Tainted Vitae move additional blood, if available, from the source to the hunter.
Festivo dello Estinto the successful hunter, after gaining blood from whatever source, fills up with blood from the blood bank.
Foul Blood the hunter takes 1 less blood from the source.
Immaculate Vitae (superior), Masquerade Endangered, Vampiric Disease no blood is moved from the source.
Inbase Discotek, Frankfurt the hunter, after gaining a blood from whatever source, gains a blood from the blood bank.
Last edit: 28 Apr 2013 18:05 by Adonai.
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