Slave - Mental Maze interaction

Slave: Some minions are identified as slaves to a specified clan. A slave cannot take a directed action if his controller doesn't control a ready member of the specified clan. Also, if a member of the specified clan controlled by the same Methuselah is blocked, the controller can lock the slave to cancel the combat and to unlock the acting vampire and have the slave enter combat with the blocking minion instead.

Mental Maze

 Reaction

 Obfuscate

Only usable when this vampire successfully blocks an ally or a younger vampire (play before combat, if any).
 End the action (with no combat). If this blocking minion is a Follower of Set, this card costs 1 less blood.
 As above, and do not tap this blocking vampire.


If a younger vampire is acting and gets blocked, he can choose to use the Slave rule. If so, mental maze can be played? And with which results?

Mental Maze hapen before slave rules. so when you block acting vampire you play Mental Maze before to him chose to use slave rules

In this case is not the acting vampire to have priority to choose?

Apparently the slave can enter combat before the blocker can play obedience/mental maze.

groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/ECrwBsBMHaU

XZealot wrote:
>
> Does the slave rule beat obedience?
The rule doesn't, no.

But the sequencing rule would allow the acting player to activate the slave
rule before the defending player could play Obedience, yes.
[LSJ 04-NOV-2001]
Google: "slave obedience author:LSJ"

> If say Jing Wei is blocked and
> obedience is played, then could I institute the slave rule and enter combat
> with the reacting minion?
Yes.

> Also, under the rules it says that when you block someone that you tap and
> enter combat. Since nothing in VTES is simultaneous, what comes first the
> tapping or the entering combat?
As you say, the tapping.
But you don't tap until you're about to enter combat, in case you're worried
about Obedience's timing (it is played before you tap, of course).

--
LSJ () V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc.
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In this case, you cannot cancel that which does not exist.

1. Attempt to Block.
2. Block Successful
3. Effects after block successful (Change of Target, Kiss of Ra, Obedience, Mental Maze...)
4. Combat IF ANY.


Think of it like this, the same way there's a chance that an airplane travel ends without a crash, there's a chance that a block results in a combat.

GreyB wrote:

Apparently the slave can enter combat before the blocker can play obedience/mental maze.

groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/ECrwBsBMHaU

XZealot wrote:
>
> Does the slave rule beat obedience?
The rule doesn't, no.

But the sequencing rule would allow the acting player to activate the slave
rule before the defending player could play Obedience, yes.
[LSJ 04-NOV-2001]
Google: "slave obedience author:LSJ"

> If say Jing Wei is blocked and
> obedience is played, then could I institute the slave rule and enter combat
> with the reacting minion?
Yes.

> Also, under the rules it says that when you block someone that you tap and
> enter combat. Since nothing in VTES is simultaneous, what comes first the
> tapping or the entering combat?
As you say, the tapping.
But you don't tap until you're about to enter combat, in case you're worried
about Obedience's timing (it is played before you tap, of course).

--
LSJ () V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc.
Links to V:TES news, rules, cards, utilities, and tournament calendar:
www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

Oh Scott, we miss you.

BTW, bogus rulling. I hope it changes.