Helena, revised?
05 Apr 2019 09:46 - 05 Apr 2019 09:50 #94392
by ulph
Helena, revised? was created by ulph
Hello! Upon browsing Amaranth, I notice Helena has the following card text, on the actual card as well as the "revised" tab:
"revised"
Name: Helena
[CE:V, BSC:X]
Cardtype: Vampire
Clan: Toreador
Group: 3
Capacity: 10
Discipline: obf pre tha AUS CEL DOM
Camarilla: While Helena is locked and ready, she can burn 1 blood to wake, but only for reaction cards requiring Auspex [aus]. +1 bleed.
Artist: Rebecca Guay
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"official"
Name: Helena
[CE:V, BSC:X]
Cardtype: Vampire
Clan: Toreador
Group: 3
Capacity: 10
Discipline: obf pre tha AUS CEL DOM
Camarilla: If Helena is locked and ready, she can burn a blood to be able to attempt to block and/or play reaction cards that require Auspex [aus] as if unlocked for the remainder of the action. +1 bleed.
Artist: Rebecca Guay
---
What is this "revised" card text on Amaranth to begin with? Pending changes? Some unofficial rewording?
If pending official it is quite a significant nerf unless I misread - ie, cannot wake/block without playing a [aus] reaction card?
"revised"
Name: Helena
[CE:V, BSC:X]
Cardtype: Vampire
Clan: Toreador
Group: 3
Capacity: 10
Discipline: obf pre tha AUS CEL DOM
Camarilla: While Helena is locked and ready, she can burn 1 blood to wake, but only for reaction cards requiring Auspex [aus]. +1 bleed.
Artist: Rebecca Guay
---
"official"
Name: Helena
[CE:V, BSC:X]
Cardtype: Vampire
Clan: Toreador
Group: 3
Capacity: 10
Discipline: obf pre tha AUS CEL DOM
Camarilla: If Helena is locked and ready, she can burn a blood to be able to attempt to block and/or play reaction cards that require Auspex [aus] as if unlocked for the remainder of the action. +1 bleed.
Artist: Rebecca Guay
---
What is this "revised" card text on Amaranth to begin with? Pending changes? Some unofficial rewording?
If pending official it is quite a significant nerf unless I misread - ie, cannot wake/block without playing a [aus] reaction card?
Last edit: 05 Apr 2019 09:50 by ulph.
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05 Apr 2019 10:06 #94393
by Kraus
This here is the only official card text source:
www.vekn.net/images/stories/downloads/cardlist.txt
"Oh, to the Hades with the manners! He's a complete bastard, and calling him that insults bastards everywhere!"
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Replied by Kraus on topic Helena, revised?
Correct.Some unofficial rewording?
This here is the only official card text source:
www.vekn.net/images/stories/downloads/cardlist.txt
"Oh, to the Hades with the manners! He's a complete bastard, and calling him that insults bastards everywhere!"
-Nalia De-Arnise
garourimgazette.wordpress.com/
www.vekn.net/forum-guidelines
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07 Apr 2019 21:19 - 07 Apr 2019 21:23 #94428
by Ke.
Replied by Ke. on topic Helena, revised?
The revised tab card text is from here:
BETA / Revised — card text that often becomes official.
www.vekn.net/images/stories/downloads/vtescsv_utf8_revised.zip
This is useful to spot errors in upcoming card text.
The official tab text is from here:
Official CSV
www.vekn.net/images/stories/downloads/vtescsv_utf8.zip
BETA / Revised — card text that often becomes official.
www.vekn.net/images/stories/downloads/vtescsv_utf8_revised.zip
This is useful to spot errors in upcoming card text.
The official tab text is from here:
Official CSV
www.vekn.net/images/stories/downloads/vtescsv_utf8.zip
Last edit: 07 Apr 2019 21:23 by Ke..
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14 Apr 2019 09:45 #94519
by Bloodartist
Why are there any kind of unofficial rewordings in services that common people regularly use?
A heretic is a man who sees with his own eyes.
—Gotthold Ephraim Lessing
Replied by Bloodartist on topic Helena, revised?
Correct.Some unofficial rewording?
This here is the only official card text source:
www.vekn.net/images/stories/downloads/cardlist.txt
Why are there any kind of unofficial rewordings in services that common people regularly use?
A heretic is a man who sees with his own eyes.
—Gotthold Ephraim Lessing
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15 Apr 2019 01:31 - 15 Apr 2019 01:32 #94521
by Ke.
Replied by Ke. on topic Helena, revised?
It helps to pick up and correct issues in forthcoming card text / revisions. The more eyes the better.
For example the revised text of Huitzilopochtli currently has a typo; this was reported by an Amaranth user; Vincent has been notified and can then correct the source file.
For example the revised text of Huitzilopochtli currently has a typo; this was reported by an Amaranth user; Vincent has been notified and can then correct the source file.
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16 Apr 2019 07:50 #94522
by Bloodartist
But it confuses normal people what the correct wording actually is, in a game thats already way too confusing. This comes up regularly with new local players who have no idea multiple wordings exist, or that the errata is "unofficial". It is very misleading.
A heretic is a man who sees with his own eyes.
—Gotthold Ephraim Lessing
Replied by Bloodartist on topic Helena, revised?
It helps to pick up and correct issues in forthcoming card text / revisions. The more eyes the better.
For example the revised text of Huitzilopochtli currently has a typo; this was reported by an Amaranth user; Vincent has been notified and can then correct the source file.
But it confuses normal people what the correct wording actually is, in a game thats already way too confusing. This comes up regularly with new local players who have no idea multiple wordings exist, or that the errata is "unofficial". It is very misleading.
A heretic is a man who sees with his own eyes.
—Gotthold Ephraim Lessing
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