file Daemonic Possession

21 Sep 2022 09:11 - 21 Sep 2022 09:13 #106382 by Coyote
Daemonic Possession was created by Coyote
Name: Daemonic Possession
[FN:C2, POD:DTC]
Cardtype: Action
Cost: 2 blood
Discipline: Necromancy
[nec] Choose a minion controlled by another Methuselah who has been burned since your last turn. Move the chosen minion from their owner's ash heap to your ready region with 1 blood or life, and lock them.
[NEC] As above, but do not lock the chosen minion.
Artist: Mark Nelson


As far as I know, minions in ash heaps are never controlled. What means that the minion has to be controlled?

Thanks.
Last edit: 21 Sep 2022 09:13 by Coyote.

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21 Sep 2022 09:58 - 21 Sep 2022 10:03 #106383 by inm8
Replied by inm8 on topic Daemonic Possession

As far as I know, minions in ash heaps are never controlled.

This is correctly understood.

What means that the minion has to be controlled?

The card text is not the best… the wording is because of the “since your last turn.” referring to a past state where “a minion controlled by another Methuselah” is applicable. Read it as per below, hopefully it makes more sense.

“ Choose a minion that was controlled by another Methuselah who has been burned since your last turn. Move the chosen minion from their owner's ash heap to your ready region with 1 blood or life, and lock them.
Last edit: 21 Sep 2022 10:03 by inm8.

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21 Sep 2022 10:08 #106384 by Coyote
Replied by Coyote on topic Daemonic Possession
Thanks a lot, inm8

I was looking to use daemonic possession with vampires burned by Gisela Harden, The Winnower, but I see that combo doesn't work. Neither it does with Yong-Sun, Harmonist.

Name: Gisela Harden, The Winnower
[BL:U2]
Cardtype: Vampire
Clan: Harbinger of Skulls
Group: 2
Capacity: 7
Discipline: aus dem FOR NEC
Sabbat priscus: Gisela can burn an uncontrolled minion in your prey's uncontrolled region as a (D) action that costs X blood, where X is the amount of blood on that card, any blood on that card is returned to your prey's pool.
Artist: Christopher Shy

Name: Yong-Sun, Harmonist
[Sabbat:V, Promo-20040409]
Cardtype: Vampire
Clan: Nosferatu antitribu
Group: 2
Capacity: 10
Discipline: aus ANI OBF POT THA
Sabbat cardinal: Yong-Sun may burn the top card of your prey's crypt as a (D) action.
Artist: Kevin McCann

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21 Sep 2022 12:48 - 21 Sep 2022 12:48 #106387 by Bloodartist
Replied by Bloodartist on topic Daemonic Possession
Yes, in theory this card doesn't even work, cause no such minion as stipulated by its condition can exist. Unfortunately BCP had a policy at some point that they only errata cards that come into print. Since this is necromancy card which won't see reprint (necromancy will be rolled into Oblivion in V5), I have no idea what happens to this.

It should just say "minion card from another methuselah's ash heap".

A heretic is a man who sees with his own eyes.
—Gotthold Ephraim Lessing



Last edit: 21 Sep 2022 12:48 by Bloodartist.

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21 Sep 2022 12:53 #106388 by Ankha
Replied by Ankha on topic Daemonic Possession

As far as I know, minions in ash heaps are never controlled.

This is correctly understood.

What means that the minion has to be controlled?

The card text is not the best… the wording is because of the “since your last turn.” referring to a past state where “a minion controlled by another Methuselah” is applicable. Read it as per below, hopefully it makes more sense.

“ Choose a minion that was controlled by another Methuselah who has been burned since your last turn. Move the chosen minion from their owner's ash heap to your ready region with 1 blood or life, and lock them.

Correct.

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22 Sep 2022 10:22 #106396 by Bloodartist
Replied by Bloodartist on topic Daemonic Possession

Correct.


So are we to understand that this card DOES work even though it has had no errata, or that it is always unplayable?

A heretic is a man who sees with his own eyes.
—Gotthold Ephraim Lessing



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