Card Idea: Good Sabbat Vote (Parity Shift Equivalent)

I just want to add that I think it's hilarious you chose Vykos as the vamp for the picture... according to the source material, Vykos' appearance at the Convention of Thorns included him performing a self-castration.., and then some... and throwing his, er, manhood across the table at Hardestadt.

Brings another meaning to the 'flung junk' deck concept, doesn't it?

cheers
Disco Stu

Disco_Stu wrote:

I just want to add that I think it's hilarious you chose Vykos as the vamp for the picture... according to the source material, Vykos' appearance at the Convention of Thorns included him performing a self-castration.., and then some... and throwing his, er, manhood across the table at Hardestadt.

Brings another meaning to the 'flung junk' deck concept, doesn't it?

cheers
Disco Stu

lol definitely intended

simcof wrote:

thanks for the feedback guys! definitely as written is above curve at the moment.

that being said, I have a question. given this card existed; would Castration decks be appreciably stronger that their prince/justicar parity shift equivalents?

does torporing a vamp and gaining pool get you closer to winning the game than parity shift?

I don't think Castration decks would be stronger than parity shift decks but I don't care so much about that. You need to factor also is the card fun to play against. I can imagine many situations getting hit by this vote from crosstable to my tooled up vampire with almost nothing I could do. So this should be limited to pred/prey only (pref only prey). Also this + graverobbing is very easy to do and can be too gamebreaking. Maybe change that vampire goes to torpor during that player untap phase. Different version:


Public Castration

Requires a Priscus, Archbishop, Cardinal or Regent
Polical Action
Worth 1 Vote

Choose a younger vampire or ally controlled by your prey or predator. Successful referendum sends the vampire to torpor or burns the ally during his or her next untap phase and you gain X pool if minion is controlled by your predator or your prey burns X pool if minion is controlled by your prey where X is the capacity of the vampire or cost of the ally (up to a maximum of the number of methuselahs in the game). Only one Public Castration can be played each turn.

Ankha wrote:

Damage could be capped to 5 maybe.

No need to: it takes an 11-cap targeting a full 5-cap to inflict 6 useful damage. In all other other cases, either the vote inflicts 5 or less or the extra damage is lost once the target is empty in torpor.

I think Ankha's idea makes the card way below Parity Shift, and if finding an equal to Parity Shift is the goal, that's not going to do it.

The concept is good, though, and thematically the card is hilarious. Some major tweaking of the ruling should be made, though.

For those that are afraid of grave robbing and this, combat can already manage this kind of a thing. Sometimes getting votes through is the easier way, sometimes not. And to really benefit from this kind of a card you'd need to voter cap it. A better approach in my opinion would be making the card more usable by all Sabbat guys, not just those with presence. I don't have any answers to how to manage this, but I'm just bringing it up.

The thing here is, that is stealing pool from players stronger than torporising a vampire, and gaining pool in the process. That might result in either a burnt/stolen vampire, or a wee bit delayed next turn and loss of two blood.

So, I dunno.