file The Full Bleed project - back on my bullshit [03.20]

13 Oct 2014 06:57 #66491 by Ankha

On a side note, i'm all for new backgrounds, current ones are quite nice, but looks bit dated.

I don't think it's a good reason to change.

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13 Oct 2014 08:53 #66497 by elchevtes
Hi,

The illustration from Nikolaus Vermeulen from CE is from Quinton Hoover.

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13 Oct 2014 08:55 - 13 Oct 2014 08:55 #66498 by Pascal Bertrand

i mean, i get it. I truly do. It'd be an awkward transition to lose The Splat, but is it truly necessary for the design? do we really even need expansion icons anymore? i mean, it must be hard enough to come up with names that don't sound ridiculously awful, let alone drying to come up with an expansion icon that isn't a skull, ankh or whatever.

I would like to keep the expansion symbol, as it tells which set the card comes from.

For instance, some players might like your Alex Camille or Badr illustrations, remember that they both come from the "broken column" set. Go to the page for The Unaligned, download files, and realize they're not there.

However, we could probably make that icon smaller.
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13 Oct 2014 09:35 #66502 by Rémi
Hello,

I would like to keep the expansion symbol, as it tells which set the card comes from.

As it should be like a promo, I cannot see the point.
If you want to know from which set a card comes from, you have to check it on a software or internet. You will search it by name won't you? Searching it by name you will find every sets the card appears in...

In order to avoid any kinds of possible confusion, maybe you could find a "promo" symbol to put on every "promo" card. I would say that is useless but that is only my personal opinion.

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13 Oct 2014 11:26 #66512 by Pascal Bertrand

Hello,

I would like to keep the expansion symbol, as it tells which set the card comes from.

As it should be like a promo, I cannot see the point.

Says who?

If you want to know from which set a card comes from, you have to check it on a software or internet. You will search it by name won't you? Searching it by name you will find every sets the card appears in...

That's only if you remember the card's name.
If you already have 2 cards from The Unaligned, and you notice that there's a neat 10-cap Gangrel that you want to use and that also comes from the broken column set, you don't have to remember that the name is Matasuntha. Just "Big gangrel, The Unaligned". Well. That's what I would do.

But we can have both - name *and* icon !

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13 Oct 2014 11:35 #66514 by Timo

Hello,

I would like to keep the expansion symbol, as it tells which set the card comes from.

As it should be like a promo, I cannot see the point.

Says who?


I guess he is refering to the first post of self biased where he says those cards "make wonderful promos"

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13 Oct 2014 11:41 #66515 by Lech

On a side note, i'm all for new backgrounds, current ones are quite nice, but looks bit dated.

I don't think it's a good reason to change.


It's not a bad reason either. I won't cry if those are not changed, and green bar on the left is changed to the same color as the rest of background and clan/set icons are resized.

I'll be happy camper in such case.

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13 Oct 2014 11:47 - 13 Oct 2014 11:53 #66516 by Ankha

On a side note, i'm all for new backgrounds, current ones are quite nice, but looks bit dated.

I don't think it's a good reason to change.


It's not a bad reason either. I won't cry if those are not changed, and green bar on the left is changed to the same color as the rest of background and clan/set icons are resized.

I'll be happy camper in such case.

It is a bad reason, because it makes the game harder to learn: you'd have 3 different clan backgrounds for each clan to recognize. Imagine the game with two sets of cardtype icons (eg. two different icons for action modifiers).
I can't see good reasons, and you not minding is not a good reason :)

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13 Oct 2014 12:48 - 13 Oct 2014 12:56 #66519 by Rémi

As it should be like a promo, I cannot see the point.

Says who?

Well, in a recent thread where I was asking about altering card people says it was prohibited to rewrite any parts of the cards (title, clan and discipline symbols). As far as I understand the current discussions, those full bleed cards does not respect those modifications so that I (Who? I) assumed that this thread could not apply to regular cards... so this thread could apply to "promo" cards.
And reprinting official cards is still prohibited, isn't it?

Am I the only one who saw a non-The unaligned card in this thread? A Vampire called: Gwendolyne maybe.

Anyway, sorry for the misunderstanding.
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Rémi.

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13 Oct 2014 14:29 #66530 by Lech

It is a bad reason, because it makes the game harder to learn: you'd have 3 different clan backgrounds for each clan to recognize. Imagine the game with two sets of cardtype icons (eg. two different icons for action modifiers).
I can't see good reasons, and you not minding is not a good reason :)


You already have two different ones, and crypt is less bothersome than library. Icons stayed the same, and while i don't like some of those (wax for sabbat clan), i think they'll stay mostly the same.

I'd rather discuss another point i made, cards with background on green strip.

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