file New vampire: Lord Leopold Valemar, Lasombra Priscus

15 Jan 2019 20:26 - 15 Jan 2019 20:50 #92890 by ReverendRevolver
Why is nobody stating the obvious worst part of this guy:

:cel:


It may as well be :nec: :vis: :mel: :san: or :spi: for all the good it does a vampire who has no :for: and cant be anarch.

:myt: or :nec: woulda been safe, or just one less discipline.

Both new Lasombra are :DOM: gtu targets for Valez or Luca here in the deck itself. With no AotA, Preturnatural Strength, Grapples, Black Metamorphoses, wide use of :for: prevent, I dont know why :POT: :OBT: to support Dark Steel is on 2 8 caps, but they're something at least.

:cel: is decorative as far as I can tell...

Edit: the 8 cap thing works in deck with Zillahs, monestary, Mylan, and the fatty political actions.
Last edit: 15 Jan 2019 20:50 by ReverendRevolver.

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15 Jan 2019 20:30 #92891 by Klaital
Now if only they would have actually put a couple dark steels in the deck...

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15 Jan 2019 21:00 #92893 by ReverendRevolver

Klaital wrote: Now if only they would have actually put a couple dark steels in the deck...


Deeply confused as to the combat package. AotA into Entombment is ALL the efficiency :obt: combat does. Due to no recent mass reprints, both aren't quite easy to get, it would've made more sense to supplant oublette for Entombment and Shadow Body for Arms of the Abyss.
Actually Entombment and Camarilla Vitae Slave make perfect sense, since nephundi and every relevant!torrie card that exists is in two precons.
I still appreciate the non-junk feel and cohesiveness of all 4 compared to older precons (I started playing with CE malk deck. You know, with :aus: :obf: :dem: AND :dom: for some reason...) but ease of reprint accessability for new players and deck tuning options with multiple copies of these could have gotten more mileage.
Having said all of that, BC got these things from "eventual thing" to playtest and then release in an incredibly short amount of time. And that's definitely something.

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15 Jan 2019 21:45 #92896 by Mewcat
Lasombra deck or cards don't matter much until they give the clan some sort of purpose within the ccg. It's nice that we have overpowered temporis cards or busted samedi masters for the dozen vamps that can play them. For some reason 100s of vampires in crap clans persist in the sad state they have been for years.

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15 Jan 2019 21:48 #92897 by Klaital

Mewcat wrote: Lasombra deck or cards don't matter much until they give the clan some sort of purpose within the ccg. It's nice that we have overpowered temporis cards or busted samedi masters for the dozen vamps that can play them. For some reason 100s of vampires in crap clans persist in the sad state they have been for years.


I am not sure if your trolling on purpose or what, but Samedi are one of the worst clans, while Lasombra is one of the better ones. They got dominate and a stealth discpline, that alone goes a long way.

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15 Jan 2019 22:22 #92898 by Mewcat
Not trolling. Lasombra are like side clan for better parent clan kiasyd. Yes they have dominate which is super op but they underperform in any strat to various others.

A big part is that obtenebrate is trash discipline. Same thing is true of viccisistude, serpentis, Chimestry, and necromancy. It really odd they tune up bloodlines and leave these disciplines or clans in same state.

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