file [EC 2012] Can you answer these?

28 Oct 2012 11:44 - 28 Oct 2012 11:59 #39852 by Izaak

There´s a bidding order by using Temptation of Greater Power.


You got any reference for this? Because there is no ruling for ToGP and I can't find anything in the rules for auctioning-type cards. I mean, I'm willing to believe that there is a bidding order, but I have never actually played the card like that (neither have I seen it played like that).

On the other side I´m not shure you can use the coven to fill with blood on damage step resolution, because with Heidelburg Castle you shurely are not allowed to do this and the situations look quite simmilar.


That's because Heidelberg specifically disallows this by its card text (not during an action, combat is part of the action).

Terror frenzy says the cost increases by one, not burn one additional blood to play combat card. So, I bet you don´t pay if the target vitals is cancelled.


Hmm yes, I just noticed the official card text is indeed different than the text on the actual card. So Target Vitals costs 1. Still, cost is by default not retrieved unless the canceller specifically says so, which Target Vitals doesn't. So even if it's cancelled, you have to pay for it. For the same reason you dont get refunded your master card if it's cancelled with Santaleous' special.
Last edit: 28 Oct 2012 11:59 by Izaak.

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28 Oct 2012 11:59 #39853 by Dr.Mafrune
In the old days you could do it with the old Heidelburg Castle (not Heidelberg Castle !!!! which is the new one), so I thought the implemented a general rule for this cases instead of correcting the card.

With target vitals, almost probably that you are also right, because the situation is the simmilar to the use of death-seeker.

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29 Oct 2012 07:50 - 31 Oct 2012 21:51 #39908 by Pascal Bertrand

And more questions from EC Day 1

Is superior Renewed Vigor a D action when played on someone else?

Yes.

Can I withdraw in a duel if I already have 2 VPs, in order to give my predator 1 VP?

Yes, but the other player stil has to try to oust you.

Can I play VIsit from the Capuchin if I already control a Visit from the Capuchin with 1 counter?

No. This is a self-contest secnario, which isn't allowed by the rules.

Can I tap a tapped vampire with Anarch Troublemaker?

Yes.

If two players are contesting Pentex, and I play mine, am I contesting it too?

Yes.

If a player who successfully called an odd number of Reversal of Fortunes is ousted, do we keep the curent turn order, or do we switch back to normal?

Keep as it is.

Can I have 2 Call the Great Beast on the same vampire?

Yes.

Can a Warghoul with Pentex burn a location per its cardtext?

Yes.

If I play Spirit Marionette on a vampire with Pentex Subversion, what happens?

You take control of him until the end of the next action. He can't act, so the next action will be some other vampire's next action.

Can I play The Missing Voice, and then Virtuosa?

TMV + base Virtuosa, yes. TMV + sup Virtuosa: No.

Can a tapped imbued use Champion?

Only if he is under the effect of On the Qui Vive.

Does a Seduction on a Secure Haven'd vampire cost pool?

No.

If a Sabbat Ravnos creates an Embrace, is the Embrace Sabbat?

No. Embrace copies clan and takes default sect, per cardtext.

Can I play an "attempt to block" card on an action I can't block? (Sense the Savage Way, for instance)

No.

Is the Embrace of an Assamite blood cursed?

No (since quite some time, now).

Can I convert an anarch vampire?

Only if he isn't titled.

When do I remove the cards for Trochomancy?

When you play it.

Can I tap the Dreams of the SPhinx during my untap phase, then untap it as normal, and then tap it again?

No. Normal untap is the first thing to happen during your untap phase.

What happens if I play Eternals of Sirius when I have 4 pool (and choose to gain the pool) ?

You have 5 pool.

Can I play Eternals of Sirius on 3 pool?

No.

Can I forfeit the game if I already have 3 VPs?

Yes (since this is a GW)

Do I gain the blood from Madrigal if the referendum is Delayed?

No.

Can I play Delaying Tactics anytime during the polling?

Yes.

Do I have to name the target card for Sargon Fragment's action?

Yes.

Do I have to name the card for Mistress Fanchon(s ability?

No. It uses "search".

Can I use Andre Leroux's abilty more than once per turn? (on different bleeds)?

Yes.

Can I burn the Warghoul during an Entrancement action targetting it?

Yes. The action would then fizzle.

Can I play Liquidation if I have less than 7 cards in my library?

No.

an I play VOter Captivaion after Freak Drive?

Yes.

I play superior Terror Frenzy. They play Target Vitals, which I cancel; Do they burn blood ?

The blood cost for Target Vitals has to be paid (as TV doesn't read "no cost is paid").

Tryphosa is in play. If my Malkavian's bleed is blocked, do i burn 1 blood?

The blood cost of a blocked action isn't paid.

Can I tap the Coven during Damage resolutiopn?

Yes, but NOT while healing damage / preventing destruction.

Does the Call the Great Beast card contest a summoned Great Beast?

"Summoned" = "Finished ritual". No.

Vaticination / Le Dinh To / Revelations: Do I get to see the replaced card?

No.

Marcianna Giovanni: Does she burn 1 blood on a normal bleed action?

Yes.

Temptatoon of Greater Power: Is there a bidding order?

No. [LSJ 20010507

Casting votes / ballots: Can I change my votes / ballots after casting them in some direction?

No.

If I play Breath of the Dragon at close range, and Rotschreck, do I take the agg?

No.

Does Fall of the Camarilla remain in play if there are only 2 other Gehenna in play?

EDIT:yes. Nothing on it has it removed from play if its play conditions are no longer met.

My Villein is canceled by Bleeding the Vine. I play a Wider View. Do I get an extra MPA?

Yes.

Can I play more than 1 Torn Signpost each combat?

[/quote]Yes. Your strength value is determined by the level of your last Torn Signpost's Potence level.
Last edit: 31 Oct 2012 21:51 by Pascal Bertrand.
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29 Oct 2012 08:01 #39910 by Pascal Bertrand
If I play Wash and then Vessel, can I also play Opium Den (without Parthenon or other stuff)?

Can I play Psyche! and then Taste of Vitae?

Do I get an extra vote from the political action card from the Echo of Harmonies?

Can I play On The Qui Vive any time during the action?

Can I cast votes against my Consanguineous Boon, including the vote from the action card?

If they DI Dragon Breath Rounds, can I play a second?

If my predator influences out Anarch Convert while I control one, can he convert one of his vampires into an anarch?

Can I play Cryptic Rider on a Dia de los Muertos / Cryptic rider passing referendum?

Can I play Delaying Tactics on a Dia de los muertos / Cryptic rider passing referendum?

WHat happens if I have the edge, 4 pool, and 2 First Traditions are in play (and I want to take my turn)?

Can I play Touch of clarity as a reaction card to cancel Deflection?

If I play On The Qui Vive, and Second Tradition, can I burn 1 blood to untap?

Slauthtering the Herd: What happens if the vampire who played it is banished?

If I play Target Vitals and DBR, is the damage from TV aggravated?

If they play DI on mirror walk, do I replace it?
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29 Oct 2012 08:05 #39911 by KevinM

Can I play more than 1 Torn Signpost each combat?

Yes. Your strength value is determined by the level of your last Torn Signpost's Potence level.

What does any of that have to do with it? I'm curious, because you answered so many other questions with just "Yes" but then you went into a big rigamarole regarding Torn Signpost, when the card text of Torn Signpost explains perfectly what to do.

or: Why was anything more than "Yes" necessary?
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29 Oct 2012 08:12 #39915 by Pascal Bertrand
I was happy to finish typing that list and my joy flew to my fingers :)
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