file On Lilith's Blessing 3. "problematic card"

17 Nov 2011 09:23 - 17 Nov 2011 09:24 #14724 by Lönkka
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It would be fine if it was Unique.

Or you could add some cards that do Bad ShitTM to Bahari vampires to the upcoming PDF sets. Preferably to cards that already had a usable effect so they wouldn't be wallpaper if there wasn't any Bahari around.

Kinda in the vein of Fiendish Tongue vs Anarchs, but even more so.

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17 Nov 2011 09:31 #14725 by Hakuron
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It is a master card, so it can be sudden-ed or wash-ed.
You need many Lilith's Blessings in your deck to be sure, that you can (ab)use ist.
It uses a MPA, so it slows down your master card flow.


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17 Nov 2011 14:06 #14743 by elotar
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Just kill villein and it'll be fine.

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17 Nov 2011 15:10 - 17 Nov 2011 15:11 #14752 by johannes
I don´t like the fact that it is mostly used for blood gain and only rarely for it´s much more interesting effect, the search for discipline card. I would have made the card free (no pool) and no blood gain, just the discipline card, would have been good enough. Permanent blood gain just prolongs games, actually Coven is just as problematic in that regard.

Still, everyone can use it, so I have difficulties caliing for the ban-hammer. That should be wielded with extreme caution.
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17 Nov 2011 17:33 #14775 by Tikkanen
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I agree with those who think that Lilith Blessing should be unique. Even without Villein-LB thing it's just way too good.

I don't think that LB should be banned, just tweak it down a little.

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17 Nov 2011 18:52 #14787 by extrala
CONTRA: Every other card of similar type (Coven, Hunting Ground, Jake Washington, etc.) is unique. The abuse together with Villein is ridiculous.

Possible Solutions:
1. Banning
2. Cardtext Changes:
2.a. Unique
2.b. Forcing a discipline card to be fetched (similar to The Becoming). (Actually this is not my idea, but another German player (Sebastian?) suggested this this week to me).
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