On Lilith's Blessing 3. "problematic card"
17 Nov 2011 09:23 - 17 Nov 2011 09:24 #14724
by Lönkka
Replied by Lönkka on topic Re: On Lilith's Blessing 3. "problematic card"
CONTRA
It would be fine if it was Unique.
Or you could add some cards that do Bad ShitTM to Bahari vampires to the upcoming PDF sets. Preferably to cards that already had a usable effect so they wouldn't be wallpaper if there wasn't any Bahari around.
Kinda in the vein of Fiendish Tongue vs Anarchs, but even more so.
It would be fine if it was Unique.
Or you could add some cards that do Bad ShitTM to Bahari vampires to the upcoming PDF sets. Preferably to cards that already had a usable effect so they wouldn't be wallpaper if there wasn't any Bahari around.
Kinda in the vein of Fiendish Tongue vs Anarchs, but even more so.
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Last edit: 17 Nov 2011 09:24 by Lönkka.
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17 Nov 2011 09:31 #14725
by Hakuron
National Coordinator Germany
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Replied by Hakuron on topic Re: On Lilith's Blessing 3. "problematic card"
PRO
It is a master card, so it can be sudden-ed or wash-ed.
You need many Lilith's Blessings in your deck to be sure, that you can (ab)use ist.
It uses a MPA, so it slows down your master card flow.
It is a master card, so it can be sudden-ed or wash-ed.
You need many Lilith's Blessings in your deck to be sure, that you can (ab)use ist.
It uses a MPA, so it slows down your master card flow.

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17 Nov 2011 14:06 #14743
by elotar
NC Russia



Replied by elotar on topic Re: On Lilith's Blessing 3. "problematic card"
PRO
Just kill villein and it'll be fine.
Just kill villein and it'll be fine.





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17 Nov 2011 15:10 - 17 Nov 2011 15:11 #14752
by johannes
Replied by johannes on topic Re: On Lilith's Blessing 3. "problematic card"
I don´t like the fact that it is mostly used for blood gain and only rarely for it´s much more interesting effect, the search for discipline card. I would have made the card free (no pool) and no blood gain, just the discipline card, would have been good enough. Permanent blood gain just prolongs games, actually Coven is just as problematic in that regard.
Still, everyone can use it, so I have difficulties caliing for the ban-hammer. That should be wielded with extreme caution.
Still, everyone can use it, so I have difficulties caliing for the ban-hammer. That should be wielded with extreme caution.
Last edit: 17 Nov 2011 15:11 by johannes.
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17 Nov 2011 17:33 #14775
by Tikkanen
Replied by Tikkanen on topic Re: On Lilith's Blessing 3. "problematic card"
CONTRA
I agree with those who think that Lilith Blessing should be unique. Even without Villein-LB thing it's just way too good.
I don't think that LB should be banned, just tweak it down a little.
I agree with those who think that Lilith Blessing should be unique. Even without Villein-LB thing it's just way too good.
I don't think that LB should be banned, just tweak it down a little.
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17 Nov 2011 18:52 #14787
by extrala
Replied by extrala on topic Re: On Lilith's Blessing 3. "problematic card"
CONTRA: Every other card of similar type (Coven, Hunting Ground, Jake Washington, etc.) is unique. The abuse together with Villein is ridiculous.
Possible Solutions:
1. Banning
2. Cardtext Changes:
2.a. Unique
2.b. Forcing a discipline card to be fetched (similar to The Becoming). (Actually this is not my idea, but another German player (Sebastian?) suggested this this week to me).
Possible Solutions:
1. Banning
2. Cardtext Changes:
2.a. Unique
2.b. Forcing a discipline card to be fetched (similar to The Becoming). (Actually this is not my idea, but another German player (Sebastian?) suggested this this week to me).
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