Misdirections

mirddes wrote:

what cards tap 2 or 3 minions (for any cost)?

Anarch Troublemaker
Unique master.
During your untap phase, you may tap up to 2 vampires controlled by your prey or burn an equipment on one of your prey's minions. If you do so, your prey takes control of the Anarch Troublemaker.


Wave of Insanity
This is a +1 stealth action.
[dem] Tap an ally.
[DEM] Tap all allies.


Snipe Hunt
Political Action
If this referendum is successful, put this card in play and tap all vampires with a capacity less than 4. Vampires with a capacity less than 4 do not untap as normal during the untap phase. Burn this card during your next master phase.


Blessed Audience
Action
Melpominee / Auspex
[X Blood]
[aus] Tap X-1 allies or younger vampires controlled by your predator or prey.
[mel] As [aus] above, at +1 stealth.
[MEL] As [mel] above, and this vampire can increase his or her capacity for purposes of selecting the targets of this effect. The cost of this action is increased by one blood for each point of capacity gained (chosen when the action is announced).



Nightmares upon Nightmares
[Event] Event
Gehenna. Do not replace until your next discard phase.
For each minion a Methuselah controls during his or her untap phase, the Methuselah must burn a card from his or her hand or tap that minion. Cards burned in this way are not replaced until the master phase. Vampires with capacity greater than the number of Gehenna cards in play and mortal allies are not affected by this card.


Disarming Presence
Action Modifier
Presence
Only usable during a referendum before any votes are cast.

 When a vampire votes in this referendum, tap him or her.

 As above, but do not tap your vampires when they cast their votes.

Note: rarely seen, as players would generally draw into vote-push or another vote, rather than something a bit random.  Not unplayable, though.





There are also a number of sketchier cards, which would only really show up in limited circumstances (draft, specific storylines):

Praxis Seizure: Istanbul - If the vampire declared prince is not an Assamite, tap all Assamites.

Praxis Seizure: Venice - If the vampire declared prince is not Giovanni, tap all Giovanni.

Letter from Vienna - Master. - Tap all ready Tremere





In terms of disabling multiple minions, without necessarily tapping, one might also look at cards such as:





Fourth Cycle, The

Event.

Requires at least two Gehenna cards in play. When this card is played, burn all Gehenna cards and conviction cards, and send all vampires with capacity 3 or less to torpor. No Gehenna cards may be played while this card remains in play.









	

		 mirddes wrote: 
		
without such cards existing, i argue a void does indeed exist.




Right, there's no void.

mirddes wrote:

what cards tap 2 or 3 minions (for any cost)?

without such cards existing, i argue a void does indeed exist.

jamesatzephyr wrote:

Right, there's no void.

i concur


with each new post i read, i learn; for this i am thankful.

have a great night my fellow methuselah.

Master

x POOL to tap x minions where combined capacity of minions to be tapped does not exceed combined pool of all methuselahs.

playable once per game.

we keep shooting still the caitiff come