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Which clan has the best set of vampires within one group?
10 Dec 2012 20:31 #42664
by Poci
Replied by Poci on topic Re: Which clan has the best set of vampires within one group?
The G2 Lasombra and Tzimisce are damn powerful!

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10 Dec 2012 20:34 - 11 Dec 2012 00:08 #42665
by ICL
I thought it would be interesting to look at each group and pick out clans where I felt a sense of draw or identity was produced by the options available. Hardly say these are the best ever, everything is relative to what the clans can provide throughout all groups and the like, and certain clans show up multiple times (and I ignored Imbued as well as other clanless).
Group 1
2. Malkavian
3. Toreador
1. Ventrue
Ventrue - Breadth of quality, consistency.
Group 2
2. Brujah
9. Followers of Set
6. Gangrel
5. Giovanni
7. Lasombra
4. Ravnos
1. Samedi
3. Tzimisce
8. Ventrue
Samedi - Would there be any Samedi decks without group 2? Only for masochists.
Brujah - The core of what made Brujah at all competitive as a clan forever.
Group 3
Some get close, like Tremere and !Ventrue to being notable, but really, group 3 is so easily mixed with other groups that it is hard to establish an identity.
Group 4
2. Followers of Set
1. Lasombra
3. Tremere antitribu
I would judge 1. and 2. to be close, with neither being all that defining. Lasombra for the midcap bleed efficiency. FoS for the midcap ... bleed efficiency (bolstered by Dominate). Trem anti only makes this list because there are numerous defining parts, even if those parts don't necessarily get played together.
Group 5
2. Baali
1. Brujah
3. Malkavian
Brujah finally tear themselves away from Dominate. Nergal often plays with other groups these days, but he did a lot on his own for a while. Group 5 Malks actually have solid depth if you are willing to overpay a bit for your stealth bleed and Santaleous is almost "extra master phase action" broken.
Group 6
2. Baali
1. Salubri
3. True Brujah
Crazy quality of specials on Salubri throughout. The best Trujah may be group 5, but group 6 holds together to some degree.
Edit-
Reorder for those who hate alphabetical.
Group 1
1. Ventrue
2. Malkavian
3. Toreador
Group 2
1. Samedi
2. Brujah
3. Tzimisce
4. Ravnos
5. Giovanni
6. Gangrel
7. Lasombra
8. Ventrue
9. Followers of Set
Group 4
1. Lasombra
2. Followers of Set
3. Tremere antitribu
Group 5
1. Brujah
2. Baali
3. Malkavian
Group 6
1. Salubri
2. Baali
3. True Brujah
Replied by ICL on topic Re: Which clan has the best set of vampires within one group?
Which clan has the best set of vampires within one group? Why? I think it would be fun to hear your opinions.
I thought it would be interesting to look at each group and pick out clans where I felt a sense of draw or identity was produced by the options available. Hardly say these are the best ever, everything is relative to what the clans can provide throughout all groups and the like, and certain clans show up multiple times (and I ignored Imbued as well as other clanless).
Group 1
2. Malkavian
3. Toreador
1. Ventrue
Ventrue - Breadth of quality, consistency.
Group 2
2. Brujah
9. Followers of Set
6. Gangrel
5. Giovanni
7. Lasombra
4. Ravnos
1. Samedi
3. Tzimisce
8. Ventrue
Samedi - Would there be any Samedi decks without group 2? Only for masochists.
Brujah - The core of what made Brujah at all competitive as a clan forever.
Group 3
Some get close, like Tremere and !Ventrue to being notable, but really, group 3 is so easily mixed with other groups that it is hard to establish an identity.
Group 4
2. Followers of Set
1. Lasombra
3. Tremere antitribu
I would judge 1. and 2. to be close, with neither being all that defining. Lasombra for the midcap bleed efficiency. FoS for the midcap ... bleed efficiency (bolstered by Dominate). Trem anti only makes this list because there are numerous defining parts, even if those parts don't necessarily get played together.
Group 5
2. Baali
1. Brujah
3. Malkavian
Brujah finally tear themselves away from Dominate. Nergal often plays with other groups these days, but he did a lot on his own for a while. Group 5 Malks actually have solid depth if you are willing to overpay a bit for your stealth bleed and Santaleous is almost "extra master phase action" broken.
Group 6
2. Baali
1. Salubri
3. True Brujah
Crazy quality of specials on Salubri throughout. The best Trujah may be group 5, but group 6 holds together to some degree.
Edit-
Reorder for those who hate alphabetical.

Group 1
1. Ventrue
2. Malkavian
3. Toreador
Group 2
1. Samedi
2. Brujah
3. Tzimisce
4. Ravnos
5. Giovanni
6. Gangrel
7. Lasombra
8. Ventrue
9. Followers of Set
Group 4
1. Lasombra
2. Followers of Set
3. Tremere antitribu
Group 5
1. Brujah
2. Baali
3. Malkavian
Group 6
1. Salubri
2. Baali
3. True Brujah
Last edit: 11 Dec 2012 00:08 by ICL.
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10 Dec 2012 20:56 #42669
by Reyda
Imagination is our only weapon in the war against reality -Jules de Gaultier
Replied by Reyda on topic Re: Which clan has the best set of vampires within one group?
sorry ICL but it's quite annoying to read. When you make a list, why not go 1,2,3 or ascending 3,2,1 ? Cardinal order is here for something...
Imagination is our only weapon in the war against reality -Jules de Gaultier
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10 Dec 2012 23:07 - 10 Dec 2012 23:08 #42672
by TorranceCircle
Replied by TorranceCircle on topic Re: Which clan has the best set of vampires within one group?
In my heart I want to say Toreador are the best. Ventrue, however, have those three midcap princes these Venture appeal to even me.
Group 1
3. Toreador
1. Ventrue
Ventrue - Breadth of quality, consistency.
I have been thinking of a Samedi deck for group 4. I don't have any of group 2 except the Baron. I will have to check out group 2. Lasombra #7?Group 2
7. Lasombra
Samedi - Would there be any Samedi decks without group 2? Only for masochists.
Brujah - The core of what made Brujah at all competitive as a clan forever.
Kyasid have pretty good bleed in this group. These other three clans, I'll have to look at again. Perhaps it will spawn more deck ideas for me.Group 4
2. Followers of Set
1. Lasombra
3. Tremere antitribu
I would judge 1. and 2. to be close, with neither being all that defining. Lasombra for the midcap bleed efficiency. FoS for the midcap ... bleed efficiency (bolstered by Dominate). Trem anti only makes this list because there are numerous defining parts, even if those parts don't necessarily get played together..
I have been wanting to make baali vote for some time. I really like group 6 Baali because I enjoy voting from time to time.Group 6
2. Baali
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10 Dec 2012 23:10 - 10 Dec 2012 23:22 #42673
by TorranceCircle
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Reyda you are a very experienced player. I would enjoy reading your response to my question.
Edit: HAHA! Never mind. I just read your responses on page two. I like the Ravnos in group 2 also. I have a group 2 Ravnos deck that is very fun but has serious pool management issues. I like the deck but should modify it to be more resilient. I probably won't though.
Edit: HAHA! Never mind. I just read your responses on page two. I like the Ravnos in group 2 also. I have a group 2 Ravnos deck that is very fun but has serious pool management issues. I like the deck but should modify it to be more resilient. I probably won't though.
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10 Dec 2012 23:14 - 10 Dec 2012 23:15 #42674
by TorranceCircle
Replied by TorranceCircle on topic Re: Which clan has the best set of vampires within one group?
I actually have a new deck with Anson that I just need to throw together. For as good as he is, I have always shied away from playing him for fear of contestation. I decided to get over it and use him anyway!Anson is a broken set of vampires on his own.
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