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23 Sep 2013 03:23 #54286
by Vlad
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Alastor Grand Nord

Replied by Vlad on topic Re: French National Championship
No more banned cards because of one deck 'who didn't even win the finals)... please...
He clearly played to lose... but he tried to have fun...
It looks like all the whiners on google groups that got PTO banned !!!!
He clearly played to lose... but he tried to have fun...
It looks like all the whiners on google groups that got PTO banned !!!!
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23 Sep 2013 03:24 #54287
by Vlad
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Prince of Oye Plage
Alastor Grand Nord

Replied by Vlad on topic Re: French National Championship
(Nothing against Ankha / Vincent)
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23 Sep 2013 04:20 #54289
by derjudge
Replied by derjudge on topic Re: French National Championship
What about...
Reversal of Fortunes
Type: Political Action
If this referendum is successful, put this card in play. The direction of play is reversed. Prey is still to the left, however. Any vampire can call a referendum to burn this card as a +1 stealth political action. Only one Reversal of Fortunes can be played during a game.
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Reversal of Fortunes
Type: Political Action
If this referendum is successful, put this card in play. The direction of play is reversed. Prey is still to the left, however. Any vampire can call a referendum to burn this card as a +1 stealth political action. Only one Reversal of Fortunes can be played during a game.
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23 Sep 2013 04:34 - 23 Sep 2013 04:35 #54290
by Ankha
Replied by Ankha on topic Re: French National Championship
@ReverendRevolver: it's not about power, it's about game balance. The reference to Time Walk is pretty close. Being able to play even if crushed is not the same thing as having no turn (litterarily) to play.
On the three rounds:
R1: the Madness Reversal deck dealt a loosing 3-2 with his prey. His prey agreed and the game ended like that.
R2: same thing. Three players didn't play.
R3: there was apparently some deal, but the Madness Reversal made the GW and entered final.
In final, this kind of deck can't deal anymore so it really depends on seating and luck ("Do I draw Madness Network in my opening hand. If yes, I win. Otherwise, I've lost")
Playing a deck that says: "Three people on this table won't play the game (litterarily)" is not acceptable because it denies play. I was there to play. I didn't play. I don't play V:TES to sit at a table and not play any turn. And there's the King Making aspect also:No more banned cards because of one deck 'who didn't even win the finals)... please...
He clearly played to lose... but he tried to have fun...
On the three rounds:
R1: the Madness Reversal deck dealt a loosing 3-2 with his prey. His prey agreed and the game ended like that.
R2: same thing. Three players didn't play.
R3: there was apparently some deal, but the Madness Reversal made the GW and entered final.
In final, this kind of deck can't deal anymore so it really depends on seating and luck ("Do I draw Madness Network in my opening hand. If yes, I win. Otherwise, I've lost")
It won't change anything as the players don't have any turn to call that vote. The only person that could is the person the Madness Reversal deck has dealt with, so he will likely not call the vote. Even if he does, he'll probably have less votes that the Malkavian (otherwise the vote wouldn't have been successful in the first place).What about...
Reversal of Fortunes
Type: Political Action
If this referendum is successful, put this card in play. The direction of play is reversed. Prey is still to the left, however. Any vampire can call a referendum to burn this card as a +1 stealth political action. Only one Reversal of Fortunes can be played during a game.
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Last edit: 23 Sep 2013 04:35 by Ankha.
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23 Sep 2013 06:49 #54292
by jamesatzephyr
Given that it's playable only once per game, yes, the player(s) will get a turn shortly. Now yes, you could go A, B, C, D (reversal), C, B, A (out-of-turn burn reversal), B, C, D, E, but D only gets two turns preying on E, which is hardly the worst thing on earth.
Replied by jamesatzephyr on topic Re: French National Championship
It won't change anything as the players don't have any turn to call that vote.What about...
Reversal of Fortunes
Type: Political Action
If this referendum is successful, put this card in play. The direction of play is reversed. Prey is still to the left, however. Any vampire can call a referendum to burn this card as a +1 stealth political action. Only one Reversal of Fortunes can be played during a game.
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Given that it's playable only once per game, yes, the player(s) will get a turn shortly. Now yes, you could go A, B, C, D (reversal), C, B, A (out-of-turn burn reversal), B, C, D, E, but D only gets two turns preying on E, which is hardly the worst thing on earth.
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23 Sep 2013 07:32 #54293
by Ankha
Replied by Ankha on topic Re: French National Championship
I missed the last sentence. So yes, it would be acceptable.
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