Ventrue
19 Oct 2011 10:42 #12283
by Beldar
Hi all,
I'm a player with very little experience in VTES and I want to ask the community how can improve my deck. The deck I actually play is nothing new just a tipical multiaction Ventrue with Arika as a star.
This is the list:
Deck Name: Ventrue G2-3
Created By:
Description:
Crypt: (12 cards, Min: 36, Max: 44, Avg: 10)
4 Arika aus cel DOM FOR OBF PRE11 Ventrue
1 Katarina Kornfeld ani DOM FOR PRE8 Ventrue
1 Lucinde Alastor DOM FOR obf pot PRE tha10 Ventrue
3 Marcus Vitel DOM FOR OBF OBT PRE10 Ventrue
2 Maris Streck ani AUS dem dom OBF9 Malkavian
1 Queen Anne aus DOM FOR obf PRE10 Ventrue
Library: (90 cards)
Master (18 cards)
1 Creepshow Casino
1 Dark Influences
3 Dreams of the Sphinx
1 Ephor
1 Giant`s Blood
1 Golconda: Inner Peace
1 Monastery of Shadows
1 Papillon
1 Pentex Subversion
1 Ventrue Headquarters
6 Villein
Action (9 cards)
8 Govern the Unaligned
1 Entrancement
Action Modifier (30 cards)
1 Approximation of Loyalty
2 Awe
4 Elder Impersonation
2 Forgotten Labyrinth
6 Freak Drive
4 Into Thin Air
1 Kiss of Ra, The
4 Lost in Crowds
6 Voter Captivation
Political Action (16 cards)
1 Ancient Influence
2 Banishment
1 Disputed Territory
6 Kine Resources Contested
2 Parity Shift
1 Political Stranglehold
1 Reins of Power
1 Rumors of Gehenna
1 Year of Fortune
Reaction (16 cards)
4 Deflection
6 Obedience
6 Second Tradition: Domain, The
Equipment (1 cards)
1 Heart of Nizchetus
How do you intend to oust?
I oust my prey with political actions and bleed.
How do you intend to keep from being ousted?
Normally I have no real problems to gain large amounts of pool with Villein, Ancient Influence, Political Stranglehold...
What do you want your ready region to look like (ie, how many guys are you planning on getting out)?
I usually play with two vampires, Arika and Marcus Vitel. I would like to play with more but due to the high cost of the vampires it's a bit hard to influence the third vampire.
What's your metagame like? How do your opponents play?
Many blockers and combat decks.
What problems have you observed with the deck in play?
It's hard for me to keep enough blood on my vampires to pay the card's cost or after a Villein of 5 or 6 on Arika she is sent to torpor in a combat.
I'm a player with very little experience in VTES and I want to ask the community how can improve my deck. The deck I actually play is nothing new just a tipical multiaction Ventrue with Arika as a star.
This is the list:
Deck Name: Ventrue G2-3
Created By:
Description:
Crypt: (12 cards, Min: 36, Max: 44, Avg: 10)
4 Arika aus cel DOM FOR OBF PRE11 Ventrue
1 Katarina Kornfeld ani DOM FOR PRE8 Ventrue
1 Lucinde Alastor DOM FOR obf pot PRE tha10 Ventrue
3 Marcus Vitel DOM FOR OBF OBT PRE10 Ventrue
2 Maris Streck ani AUS dem dom OBF9 Malkavian
1 Queen Anne aus DOM FOR obf PRE10 Ventrue
Library: (90 cards)
Master (18 cards)
1 Creepshow Casino
1 Dark Influences
3 Dreams of the Sphinx
1 Ephor
1 Giant`s Blood
1 Golconda: Inner Peace
1 Monastery of Shadows
1 Papillon
1 Pentex Subversion
1 Ventrue Headquarters
6 Villein
Action (9 cards)
8 Govern the Unaligned
1 Entrancement
Action Modifier (30 cards)
1 Approximation of Loyalty
2 Awe
4 Elder Impersonation
2 Forgotten Labyrinth
6 Freak Drive
4 Into Thin Air
1 Kiss of Ra, The
4 Lost in Crowds
6 Voter Captivation
Political Action (16 cards)
1 Ancient Influence
2 Banishment
1 Disputed Territory
6 Kine Resources Contested
2 Parity Shift
1 Political Stranglehold
1 Reins of Power
1 Rumors of Gehenna
1 Year of Fortune
Reaction (16 cards)
4 Deflection
6 Obedience
6 Second Tradition: Domain, The
Equipment (1 cards)
1 Heart of Nizchetus
How do you intend to oust?
I oust my prey with political actions and bleed.
How do you intend to keep from being ousted?
Normally I have no real problems to gain large amounts of pool with Villein, Ancient Influence, Political Stranglehold...
What do you want your ready region to look like (ie, how many guys are you planning on getting out)?
I usually play with two vampires, Arika and Marcus Vitel. I would like to play with more but due to the high cost of the vampires it's a bit hard to influence the third vampire.
What's your metagame like? How do your opponents play?
Many blockers and combat decks.
What problems have you observed with the deck in play?
It's hard for me to keep enough blood on my vampires to pay the card's cost or after a Villein of 5 or 6 on Arika she is sent to torpor in a combat.
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19 Oct 2011 12:23 - 19 Oct 2011 12:28 #12290
by Brum
Replied by Brum on topic Re: Ventrue
Hi!
You've come to the right place! Lots of folks here are whiling to help.
Given that you say you have issues with blood on your vampires and my experience with a deck like this, here goes some ideas:
First off, lower the deck to 82 cards or less.
It will improve card flow and how the deck works by alot.
Deck Name: Ventrue G2-3
Created By:
Description:
Crypt: (12 cards, Min: 36, Max: 44, Avg: 10)
4 Arika aus cel DOM FOR OBF PRE11 Ventrue
1 Katarina Kornfeld ani DOM FOR PRE8 Ventrue
1 Lucinde Alastor DOM FOR obf pot PRE tha10 Ventrue
3 Marcus Vitel DOM FOR OBF OBT PRE10 Ventrue
2 Maris Streck ani AUS dem dom OBF9 Malkavian
1 Queen Anne aus DOM FOR obf PRE10 Ventrue
Library: (80's version)
Master (17 cards)
-- 1 Creepshow Casino
-- 3 Dreams of the Sphinx
-- 1 Ephor
-- 1 Papillon
-- 1 Dark Influences
1 Giant`s Blood
1 Golconda: Inner Peace
1 Monastery of Shadows
1 Pentex Subversion
1 Ventrue Headquarters
6 Villein
++ 1 Information Highway
++ 5 Zillah's Valley
/*The cards I'm removing are all great cards, but with these big fellows you need crypt acceleration. This plus Villein makes it so that you'll see that more and more you'll be able to have 3 minions up. Trust me.
You get a vampire up earlier and you'll build your game faster.*/
Action (5 cards)
3 Govern the Unaligned
2 Entrancement
/*
Remove Governs??? Brum, are you mad?!??
- No sir, I'm just saying that crypt acceleration allows you to do only ofencive actions and thus lowering the importance of Govern.
It is not by chance that all the Arika you see on TWD have few Governs or none at all.
Don't get me wrong. I love the card. I use it allot (to the point of people complaining that I can´t play without it.)
My Arika decks curently have none.
If you have them, substitute those Governs for Mind Rapes. Fun.
Or all the actions could be 4 Entrancements.
*/
Action Modifier (29 cards)
1 Approximation of Loyalty
-- 2 Awe
-- 1 Elder Impersonation
3 Elder Impersonation
2 Forgotten Labyrinth
6 Freak Drive
-- 4 Into Thin Air
1 Kiss of Ra, The
4 Lost in Crowds
6 Voter Captivation
++ 3 Faceless Night
++ 3 Perfect Paragon
/*Taping effect of Faceless Night is awesome. Specially in a meta with walls, like the one you seem to have.
Perfect Paragon gives -1 intercept to almost EVERYBODY, or 3 votes in a referendum if you need. Much better than Awe, specially with all the Delaying Tactics people use these days.*/
Political Action (12 cards)
1 Ancient Influence
2 Banishment
-- 1 Disputed Territory
-- 1 Kine Resources Contested
5 Kine Resources Contested
2 Parity Shift
1 Political Stranglehold
1 Reins of Power
-- 1 Rumors of Gehenna
-- 1 Year of Fortune
/*Some of these cards are sub-par. You want your deck to flow well and to put preasure on your Prey (or elsewhere on the table)
Heart of Nizchetus makes it so that you can put extra Masters under the deck, so no Rumors.
Year of Fortune is simply not good IMO. This deck flows well with 7 hand size.
Other people's locations?
You have Arika. Why would you want to deprive people the right to own land? Specially if you force them to pay Tax over it?*/
Reaction (16 cards)
4 Deflection
6 Obedience
-- 2 Second Tradition: Domain, The
4 Second Tradition: Domain, The
2 On The Qui Vivre
/*Neither Deflection nor Obedience require the vampire to actually untap and you might want to deflect bleeds without blocking, or have Arika react instead of her friends.*/
Equipment (1 cards)
1 Heart of Nizchetus
One last word: I didn't say anything about Enkil Cog or Alastor + Helicopter VS Freak Drive.
You might want to try that, but first use the deck like this and try it out without much changes from your first version.
Enjoy and have fun!
Tiago Brum,
Portuguese NC and known
zealot.
You've come to the right place! Lots of folks here are whiling to help.
Given that you say you have issues with blood on your vampires and my experience with a deck like this, here goes some ideas:
First off, lower the deck to 82 cards or less.
It will improve card flow and how the deck works by alot.
Deck Name: Ventrue G2-3
Created By:
Description:
Crypt: (12 cards, Min: 36, Max: 44, Avg: 10)
4 Arika aus cel DOM FOR OBF PRE11 Ventrue
1 Katarina Kornfeld ani DOM FOR PRE8 Ventrue
1 Lucinde Alastor DOM FOR obf pot PRE tha10 Ventrue
3 Marcus Vitel DOM FOR OBF OBT PRE10 Ventrue
2 Maris Streck ani AUS dem dom OBF9 Malkavian
1 Queen Anne aus DOM FOR obf PRE10 Ventrue
Library: (80's version)
Master (17 cards)
-- 1 Creepshow Casino
-- 3 Dreams of the Sphinx
-- 1 Ephor
-- 1 Papillon
-- 1 Dark Influences
1 Giant`s Blood
1 Golconda: Inner Peace
1 Monastery of Shadows
1 Pentex Subversion
1 Ventrue Headquarters
6 Villein
++ 1 Information Highway
++ 5 Zillah's Valley
/*The cards I'm removing are all great cards, but with these big fellows you need crypt acceleration. This plus Villein makes it so that you'll see that more and more you'll be able to have 3 minions up. Trust me.
You get a vampire up earlier and you'll build your game faster.*/
Action (5 cards)
3 Govern the Unaligned
2 Entrancement
/*
Remove Governs??? Brum, are you mad?!??
- No sir, I'm just saying that crypt acceleration allows you to do only ofencive actions and thus lowering the importance of Govern.
It is not by chance that all the Arika you see on TWD have few Governs or none at all.
Don't get me wrong. I love the card. I use it allot (to the point of people complaining that I can´t play without it.)
My Arika decks curently have none.
If you have them, substitute those Governs for Mind Rapes. Fun.
Or all the actions could be 4 Entrancements.
*/
Action Modifier (29 cards)
1 Approximation of Loyalty
-- 2 Awe
-- 1 Elder Impersonation
3 Elder Impersonation
2 Forgotten Labyrinth
6 Freak Drive
-- 4 Into Thin Air
1 Kiss of Ra, The
4 Lost in Crowds
6 Voter Captivation
++ 3 Faceless Night
++ 3 Perfect Paragon
/*Taping effect of Faceless Night is awesome. Specially in a meta with walls, like the one you seem to have.
Perfect Paragon gives -1 intercept to almost EVERYBODY, or 3 votes in a referendum if you need. Much better than Awe, specially with all the Delaying Tactics people use these days.*/
Political Action (12 cards)
1 Ancient Influence
2 Banishment
-- 1 Disputed Territory
-- 1 Kine Resources Contested
5 Kine Resources Contested
2 Parity Shift
1 Political Stranglehold
1 Reins of Power
-- 1 Rumors of Gehenna
-- 1 Year of Fortune
/*Some of these cards are sub-par. You want your deck to flow well and to put preasure on your Prey (or elsewhere on the table)
Heart of Nizchetus makes it so that you can put extra Masters under the deck, so no Rumors.
Year of Fortune is simply not good IMO. This deck flows well with 7 hand size.
Other people's locations?
You have Arika. Why would you want to deprive people the right to own land? Specially if you force them to pay Tax over it?*/
Reaction (16 cards)
4 Deflection
6 Obedience
-- 2 Second Tradition: Domain, The
4 Second Tradition: Domain, The
2 On The Qui Vivre
/*Neither Deflection nor Obedience require the vampire to actually untap and you might want to deflect bleeds without blocking, or have Arika react instead of her friends.*/
Equipment (1 cards)
1 Heart of Nizchetus
One last word: I didn't say anything about Enkil Cog or Alastor + Helicopter VS Freak Drive.
You might want to try that, but first use the deck like this and try it out without much changes from your first version.
Enjoy and have fun!
Tiago Brum,
Portuguese NC and known

Last edit: 19 Oct 2011 12:28 by Brum.
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20 Oct 2011 00:37 #12368
by CryWolf


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Replied by CryWolf on topic Re: Ventrue
DISCLAIMER: This is NOT feedback on the deck.
In the interest of promoting clean-looking deck posts, here is the link to How to make a deck post look good .
This is the ORIGINAL deck, for easier perusal:
Deck Name : Ventrue G2-3
Author : Beldar
Description :
Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity min: 8 max: 11 average: 10
Library [90 cards]
Action [9]
1x Entrancement
8x Govern the Unaligned
Action Modifier [30]
1x Approximation of Loyalty
2x Awe
4x Elder Impersonation
2x Forgotten Labyrinth
6x Freak Drive
4x Into Thin Air
1x Kiss of Ra, The
4x Lost in Crowds
6x Voter Captivation
Equipment [1]
1x Heart of Nizchetus
Master [18]
1x Creepshow Casino
1x Dark Influences
3x Dreams of the Sphinx
1x Ephor
1x Giant's Blood
1x Golconda: Inner Peace
1x Monastery of Shadows
1x Papillon
1x Pentex(TM) Subversion
1x Ventrue Headquarters
6x Villein
Political Action [16]
1x Ancient Influence
2x Banishment
1x Disputed Territory
6x Kine Resources Contested
2x Parity Shift
1x Political Stranglehold
1x Reins of Power
1x Rumors of Gehenna
1x Year of Fortune
Reaction [16]
4x Deflection
6x Obedience
6x Second Tradition: Domain
Crafted with : Anarch Revolt Deck Builder. [Thu Oct 20 10:35:36 2011]
In the interest of promoting clean-looking deck posts, here is the link to How to make a deck post look good .
This is the ORIGINAL deck, for easier perusal:
Deck Name : Ventrue G2-3
Author : Beldar
Description :
Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity min: 8 max: 11 average: 10
4x | Arika | (11) | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | inner circle | Ventrue | (g2) |
3x | Marcus Vitel | (10) | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | prince | Ventrue | (g3) |
2x | Maris Streck | (9) | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | justicar | Malkavian | (g3) |
1x | Lucinde, Alastor | (10) | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | justicar | Ventrue | (g3) |
1x | Queen Anne | (10) | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | prince | Ventrue | (g2) |
1x | Katarina Kornfeld | (8) | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | primogen | Ventrue | (g3) |
Library [90 cards]
Action [9]
1x Entrancement
8x Govern the Unaligned
Action Modifier [30]
1x Approximation of Loyalty
2x Awe
4x Elder Impersonation
2x Forgotten Labyrinth
6x Freak Drive
4x Into Thin Air
1x Kiss of Ra, The
4x Lost in Crowds
6x Voter Captivation
Equipment [1]
1x Heart of Nizchetus
Master [18]
1x Creepshow Casino
1x Dark Influences
3x Dreams of the Sphinx
1x Ephor
1x Giant's Blood
1x Golconda: Inner Peace
1x Monastery of Shadows
1x Papillon
1x Pentex(TM) Subversion
1x Ventrue Headquarters
6x Villein
Political Action [16]
1x Ancient Influence
2x Banishment
1x Disputed Territory
6x Kine Resources Contested
2x Parity Shift
1x Political Stranglehold
1x Reins of Power
1x Rumors of Gehenna
1x Year of Fortune
Reaction [16]
4x Deflection
6x Obedience
6x Second Tradition: Domain
Crafted with : Anarch Revolt Deck Builder. [Thu Oct 20 10:35:36 2011]



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