Tremere with CHI
18 Nov 2011 19:13 #14911
by brandonsantacruz
Be careful when you fight the monsters, lest you become one.
-Friedrich Nietzsche
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Tremere with CHI was created by brandonsantacruz
Deck Name: Tremere w/CHI
Author: Brandon Haas
Crypt (12 cards; Capacity min=4 max=9 avg=7.58)
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3x Aidan Lyle 7 dom AUS CHI THA Tremere:5
4x Dr. John Dee 9 chi ANI AUS DOM THA Tremere:4
1x Marcia Felicia Licinia 9 dom ANI CHI FOR THA Ravnos:5
1x Tarrence Moore 4 aus dom tha Tremere:5
2x Troius 8 cel AUS DOM THA Tremere:4
1x Zane 5 aus dom THA Tremere:5
Library (90 cards)
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Master (15)
1x Arcane Library
1x Barrens, The
5x Blood Doll
2x Chimerstry
1x Perfectionist
2x Sudden Reversal
3x Wider View
Action (19)
1x Fifth Tradition: Hospitality
8x Govern the Unaligned
2x Magic of the Smith
2x Nightmare Curse
4x Rutor's Hand
2x Sensory Deprivation
Political Action (2)
1x Parity Shift
1x Tremere Justicar
Equipment (2)
1x Ankara Citadel, Turkey, The
1x Heart of Nizchetus
Action Modifier (17)
5x Conditioning
4x False Resonance
2x Fata Morgana
1x Mirror's Visage
5x Mirror Walk
Reaction (22)
6x Deflection
4x Eyes of Argus
1x My Enemy's Enemy
3x On the Qui Vive
4x Telepathic Misdirection
4x Wake with Evening's Freshness
Combat (8)
8x Theft of Vitae
Combo (5)
3x Mirror Image
2x Occlusion
Created with Secret Library v0.9.3. (Nov 18, 2011 22:04:13)
How do you intend to oust?
Bleed, baby!
How do you intend to keep from being ousted?
Bounce, static votes, not paying full price for vampires via Govern, locking down vampires with Sensory Deprivation and Nightmare Curse.
What will your ready region look like?
Dr. Dee +2 other vampires, Aiden being one, preferably.
What do you expect your turn to look like?
If playing defensively, govern down, do some non-bleed action and be ready to bounce.
If playing offensively, bounce then follow it up with bleeds of 3+, cancelling auspex bounce via False Resonance.
What is your metagame like?
Variable combat, some big bleeders and bloaters. Not too many weenies (although scourge of the enochians is always a good tournament play).
What weaknesses do you see?
Hardcore combat will give it problems.
A fast predator can keep me contained.
Heavy intercept will ruin my day, but I do have tricks for that (Mirror Image, False Resonance).
How would you guys adjust this deck, or is it fine as-is?
Thanks!
Author: Brandon Haas
Crypt (12 cards; Capacity min=4 max=9 avg=7.58)
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3x Aidan Lyle 7 dom AUS CHI THA Tremere:5
4x Dr. John Dee 9 chi ANI AUS DOM THA Tremere:4
1x Marcia Felicia Licinia 9 dom ANI CHI FOR THA Ravnos:5
1x Tarrence Moore 4 aus dom tha Tremere:5
2x Troius 8 cel AUS DOM THA Tremere:4
1x Zane 5 aus dom THA Tremere:5
Library (90 cards)
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Master (15)
1x Arcane Library
1x Barrens, The
5x Blood Doll
2x Chimerstry
1x Perfectionist
2x Sudden Reversal
3x Wider View
Action (19)
1x Fifth Tradition: Hospitality
8x Govern the Unaligned
2x Magic of the Smith
2x Nightmare Curse
4x Rutor's Hand
2x Sensory Deprivation
Political Action (2)
1x Parity Shift
1x Tremere Justicar
Equipment (2)
1x Ankara Citadel, Turkey, The
1x Heart of Nizchetus
Action Modifier (17)
5x Conditioning
4x False Resonance
2x Fata Morgana
1x Mirror's Visage
5x Mirror Walk
Reaction (22)
6x Deflection
4x Eyes of Argus
1x My Enemy's Enemy
3x On the Qui Vive
4x Telepathic Misdirection
4x Wake with Evening's Freshness
Combat (8)
8x Theft of Vitae
Combo (5)
3x Mirror Image
2x Occlusion
Created with Secret Library v0.9.3. (Nov 18, 2011 22:04:13)
How do you intend to oust?
Bleed, baby!
How do you intend to keep from being ousted?
Bounce, static votes, not paying full price for vampires via Govern, locking down vampires with Sensory Deprivation and Nightmare Curse.
What will your ready region look like?
Dr. Dee +2 other vampires, Aiden being one, preferably.
What do you expect your turn to look like?
If playing defensively, govern down, do some non-bleed action and be ready to bounce.
If playing offensively, bounce then follow it up with bleeds of 3+, cancelling auspex bounce via False Resonance.
What is your metagame like?
Variable combat, some big bleeders and bloaters. Not too many weenies (although scourge of the enochians is always a good tournament play).
What weaknesses do you see?
Hardcore combat will give it problems.
A fast predator can keep me contained.
Heavy intercept will ruin my day, but I do have tricks for that (Mirror Image, False Resonance).
How would you guys adjust this deck, or is it fine as-is?
Thanks!
Be careful when you fight the monsters, lest you become one.
-Friedrich Nietzsche
brandonsantacruz.blogspot.com/
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18 Nov 2011 20:06 #14922
by Dorrinal
Replied by Dorrinal on topic Re: Tremere with CHI
I am excited about Tremere! Oh but I don't like this deck. No crypt acceleration, no bloat, very little in the way of recouping blood costs. And if you want some more stealth you can just use cards like Bonding and Seduction - I don't see you really getting your pool's worth out of the
in the crypt.


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18 Nov 2011 20:27 - 18 Nov 2011 20:28 #14930
by Kushiel
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I've never had success with 2x Magic, 2x equipment in a big deck like this one. Getting super-cheap CHI lockdown actions via Ankara Citadel is really sexy. Not being able to do so consistently isn't. Go for it seriously or cut it.
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18 Nov 2011 20:49 #14936
by Dorrinal
Replied by Dorrinal on topic Re: Tremere with CHI
I think you're right, Kushiel. If you choose cut the Ankara-Nightmare Curse angle there isn't much reason to keep the deck around. Might as well go build an
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18 Nov 2011 21:30 - 18 Nov 2011 21:32 #14943
by brandonsantacruz
Be careful when you fight the monsters, lest you become one.
-Friedrich Nietzsche
brandonsantacruz.blogspot.com/
Replied by brandonsantacruz on topic Re: Tremere with CHI
The way I see it, a fatty deck like this has to either focus on surviving or be totally gun-ho. I have focused more on surviving so that things can be timed properly. I could see trying to make the Ankara Citadel show up more reliably because it has a big effect on how the deck works. Maybe -2 Rutors +1 Vast Wealth, +1 Magic of the Smith? With 4 search cards and two equipment, I'm probably getting closer. What would you cut?
Be careful when you fight the monsters, lest you become one.
-Friedrich Nietzsche
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Last edit: 18 Nov 2011 21:32 by brandonsantacruz.
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19 Nov 2011 15:55 #15037
by Dorrinal
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The vampires who you intend to play Govern the Unaligned at superior do not have superior Chimerstry. So you need to bring out Dr. John Dee, draw a discipline master or wait for Aidan Lyle to really get going? Hm.
I would cut the cards that rely on superior Chimerstry, stuff like Occlusion. And I don't think you need that many Wider Views.
I would cut the cards that rely on superior Chimerstry, stuff like Occlusion. And I don't think you need that many Wider Views.

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