file Scarce tapnbleed

31 Jan 2012 09:30 #22113 by Cooper
Replied by Cooper on topic Re: Scarce tapnbleed
Well, first, i dont think it is anywhere near similar :-) It is completely different, as it has another goal. stealing vampires.

What do you do with the forms if they just stop bleeding and defend?
also i think in my deck daring the dawns and revelations are key to get that last punch in.

i think you are a bit low on defense especially against (big) bleeds. perhaps make use of the AUS on Serenna and Matthew, and then add revelations and telepatic m,isdirects? I dont thnk you want Obakuaye anyway, as he has no OBE

indeed penitent resilience seems very good to add,
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Hey,

I'm trying to do a variant of this deck, but to steal the vampires permanently.

Here's my decklist.

Crypt: (12 cards, Min: 18, Max: 36, Avg: 6,91)
1 Abdelsobek for nec obf pre ser5 Followers of Set
1 Ahmose Chambers obf ser 3 Followers of Set
2 Matthew AUS FOR OBE cel7 Salubri
2 Obaluaye FOR abo aus obe5 Salubri
1 Ogwon OBF PRE SER for7 Followers of Set
3 Pentweret OBFPRE SER aus for obe9 Followers of Set
1 Porphyrion CHI OBF PRE SER for9 Followers of Set
1 Serenna the White AUS FOR OBE ani dem8 Salubri

Library: (90 cards)
Master (18 cards)
1 Archon Investigation
1 Cave of Apples
3 Heidelberg Castle, Germany
1 Khobar Towers, Al-Khubar
4 Minion Tap
2 Sudden Reversal
4 Vessel
2 Spontaneous Power

Action (22 cards)
5 Enticement
4 Form of Corruption
6 Renewed Vigor
7 Spirit Marionette

Action Modifier (25 cards)
5 Cloak the Gathering
7 Freak Drive
4 Repulsion
4 Truth of a Thousand Lies
5 Veil the Legions

Reaction (6 cards)
1 Delaying Tactics
4 On the Qui Vive
1 Poison Pill

Combat (12 cards)
6 Anesthetic Touch
6 Majesty

Equipment (1 cards)
1 Journal of Hrorsh

Combo (6 cards)
6 Gift of Sleep

I'm thinking about put some penitent resilience or elder impersonation to cancel blocks.

Some tips would be appreciated.

thanks ;D

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31 Jan 2012 11:19 #22120 by Wand
Replied by Wand on topic Re: Scarce tapnbleed
Interesting tips. The goal to steal vampires forever is the main goal, but spirit marionette can still tap and bleed. I can make use of heidelberg to transfer all the blood but 1 and still bleed. So, if the prey stop bleeding and defend, he would defend himself against his own vampires at least. Temptation also is a way to steal often the vampires, if I keep tracking the blood on them. Also if I steal with form a vampire with temptation I can act twice in the turn.

I thought using nahum enosh in this deck too. He has OBF and AUS. He could even use enkil cog to do a combo villein + golconda if he steals the vampire in the prey's turn.

I will try to make some defensive combos to the deck, but I think the heavy bloat stealing the vampires would be a great way to survive.

Archbishop of Vitória

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31 Jan 2012 13:37 #22126 by Cooper
Replied by Cooper on topic Re: Scarce tapnbleed

Interesting tips. The goal to steal vampires forever is the main goal, but spirit marionette can still tap and bleed. I can make use of heidelberg to transfer all the blood but 1 and still bleed. So, if the prey stop bleeding and defend, he would defend himself against his own vampires at least. Temptation also is a way to steal often the vampires, if I keep tracking the blood on them. Also if I steal with form a vampire with temptation I can act twice in the turn.

I thought using nahum enosh in this deck too. He has OBF and AUS. He could even use enkil cog to do a combo villein + golconda if he steals the vampire in the prey's turn.

I will try to make some defensive combos to the deck, but I think the heavy bloat stealing the vampires would be a great way to survive.


I sure wouldnt use Golconda, if you are playing Khobar already. And that Enkil-trick only works if your predator is ignorant. If they let you use Enkil BEFORE their last action you just used the enkil-action to do nothing at all, and the marionette goes back to their rightful owner.

As a sidenote... your main goal should alwys be to oust. not to steal minions. i think your deck could bee better if it steers more to that goal.

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31 Jan 2012 13:57 #22127 by Izaak
Replied by Izaak on topic Re: Scarce tapnbleed

As a sidenote... your main goal should alwys be to oust.


This cannot be repeated enough.

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31 Jan 2012 17:10 #22146 by Wand
Replied by Wand on topic Re: Scarce tapnbleed
Great tips thought. I made some changes and here's the new config of the deck. I'll explain the goals and functions after the list.

Deck Name: setite_obeah
Created By: Andre Wandenkolken
Description:

Crypt: (12 cards, Min: 22, Max: 38, Avg: 7,75)
1 Abdelsobek for nec obf pre ser5 Followers of Set
1 Ahmose Chambers obf ser 3 Followers of Set
2 Matthew AUS FOR OBE cel7 Salubri
2 Nahum Enosh AUS OBE OBF VAL for pre10 Salubri
1 Ogwon OBF PRE SER for7 Followers of Set
3 Pentweret OBFPRE SER aus for obe9 Followers of Set
1 Porphyrion CHI OBF PRE SER for9 Followers of Set
1 Serenna the White AUS FOR OBE ani dem8 Salubri

Library: (90 cards)
Master (16 cards)
1 Archon Investigation
1 Cave of Apples
2 Heidelberg Castle, Germany
1 Khobar Towers, Al-Khubar
2 Spontaneous Power
1 Sudden Reversal
4 Vessel
4 Villein

Action (23 cards)
5 Enticement
4 Form of Corruption
5 Renewed Vigor
6 Spirit Marionette
3 Temptation

Action Modifier (22 cards)
4 Cloak the Gathering
6 Freak Drive
4 Repulsion
4 Truth of a Thousand Lies
4 Veil the Legions

Reaction (5 cards)
1 Delaying Tactics
4 On the Qui Vive

Combat (12 cards)
6 Anesthetic Touch
6 Majesty

Equipment (1 cards)
1 Journal of Hrorsh

Combo (11 cards)
7 Gift of Sleep
4 Penitent Resilience

The deck generates few stealth but some cards are the shared between the 2 clans (like gift of sleep) I think that this should be enough to make my actions and steal vampires.

To harass my opponent, I can use enticement and truth of a thousand lies to cause pool damage besides the marionettes. To bloat I put some Villeins and Vessels. 8 trifles in a 16 master deck. That should rotate faster and avoid to lock my hand. In adition I can use the Khobar towers to make more pool if a steal permanently any minion or with my own. To finish I can use one journal of hrosh to make more pool in some situations.

I guess that's it. With this setup will I be able to oust my prey effectivly?

Archbishop of Vitória

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