Scarce tapnbleed
31 Jan 2012 09:30 #22113
by Cooper
Replied by Cooper on topic Re: Scarce tapnbleed
Well, first, i dont think it is anywhere near similar
It is completely different, as it has another goal. stealing vampires.
What do you do with the forms if they just stop bleeding and defend?
also i think in my deck daring the dawns and revelations are key to get that last punch in.
i think you are a bit low on defense especially against (big) bleeds. perhaps make use of the AUS on Serenna and Matthew, and then add revelations and telepatic m,isdirects? I dont thnk you want Obakuaye anyway, as he has no OBE
indeed penitent resilience seems very good to add,
W

What do you do with the forms if they just stop bleeding and defend?
also i think in my deck daring the dawns and revelations are key to get that last punch in.
i think you are a bit low on defense especially against (big) bleeds. perhaps make use of the AUS on Serenna and Matthew, and then add revelations and telepatic m,isdirects? I dont thnk you want Obakuaye anyway, as he has no OBE
indeed penitent resilience seems very good to add,
W
Hey,
I'm trying to do a variant of this deck, but to steal the vampires permanently.
Here's my decklist.
Crypt: (12 cards, Min: 18, Max: 36, Avg: 6,91)
1 Abdelsobek for nec obf pre ser5 Followers of Set
1 Ahmose Chambers obf ser 3 Followers of Set
2 Matthew AUS FOR OBE cel7 Salubri
2 Obaluaye FOR abo aus obe5 Salubri
1 Ogwon OBF PRE SER for7 Followers of Set
3 Pentweret OBFPRE SER aus for obe9 Followers of Set
1 Porphyrion CHI OBF PRE SER for9 Followers of Set
1 Serenna the White AUS FOR OBE ani dem8 Salubri
Library: (90 cards)
Master (18 cards)
1 Archon Investigation
1 Cave of Apples
3 Heidelberg Castle, Germany
1 Khobar Towers, Al-Khubar
4 Minion Tap
2 Sudden Reversal
4 Vessel
2 Spontaneous Power
Action (22 cards)
5 Enticement
4 Form of Corruption
6 Renewed Vigor
7 Spirit Marionette
Action Modifier (25 cards)
5 Cloak the Gathering
7 Freak Drive
4 Repulsion
4 Truth of a Thousand Lies
5 Veil the Legions
Reaction (6 cards)
1 Delaying Tactics
4 On the Qui Vive
1 Poison Pill
Combat (12 cards)
6 Anesthetic Touch
6 Majesty
Equipment (1 cards)
1 Journal of Hrorsh
Combo (6 cards)
6 Gift of Sleep
I'm thinking about put some penitent resilience or elder impersonation to cancel blocks.
Some tips would be appreciated.
thanks ;D
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31 Jan 2012 11:19 #22120
by Wand
Archbishop of Vitória
Replied by Wand on topic Re: Scarce tapnbleed
Interesting tips. The goal to steal vampires forever is the main goal, but spirit marionette can still tap and bleed. I can make use of heidelberg to transfer all the blood but 1 and still bleed. So, if the prey stop bleeding and defend, he would defend himself against his own vampires at least. Temptation also is a way to steal often the vampires, if I keep tracking the blood on them. Also if I steal with form a vampire with temptation I can act twice in the turn.
I thought using nahum enosh in this deck too. He has OBF and AUS. He could even use enkil cog to do a combo villein + golconda if he steals the vampire in the prey's turn.
I will try to make some defensive combos to the deck, but I think the heavy bloat stealing the vampires would be a great way to survive.
I thought using nahum enosh in this deck too. He has OBF and AUS. He could even use enkil cog to do a combo villein + golconda if he steals the vampire in the prey's turn.
I will try to make some defensive combos to the deck, but I think the heavy bloat stealing the vampires would be a great way to survive.
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31 Jan 2012 13:37 #22126
by Cooper
I sure wouldnt use Golconda, if you are playing Khobar already. And that Enkil-trick only works if your predator is ignorant. If they let you use Enkil BEFORE their last action you just used the enkil-action to do nothing at all, and the marionette goes back to their rightful owner.
As a sidenote... your main goal should alwys be to oust. not to steal minions. i think your deck could bee better if it steers more to that goal.
Replied by Cooper on topic Re: Scarce tapnbleed
Interesting tips. The goal to steal vampires forever is the main goal, but spirit marionette can still tap and bleed. I can make use of heidelberg to transfer all the blood but 1 and still bleed. So, if the prey stop bleeding and defend, he would defend himself against his own vampires at least. Temptation also is a way to steal often the vampires, if I keep tracking the blood on them. Also if I steal with form a vampire with temptation I can act twice in the turn.
I thought using nahum enosh in this deck too. He has OBF and AUS. He could even use enkil cog to do a combo villein + golconda if he steals the vampire in the prey's turn.
I will try to make some defensive combos to the deck, but I think the heavy bloat stealing the vampires would be a great way to survive.
I sure wouldnt use Golconda, if you are playing Khobar already. And that Enkil-trick only works if your predator is ignorant. If they let you use Enkil BEFORE their last action you just used the enkil-action to do nothing at all, and the marionette goes back to their rightful owner.
As a sidenote... your main goal should alwys be to oust. not to steal minions. i think your deck could bee better if it steers more to that goal.
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31 Jan 2012 13:57 #22127
by Izaak
This cannot be repeated enough.
Replied by Izaak on topic Re: Scarce tapnbleed
As a sidenote... your main goal should alwys be to oust.
This cannot be repeated enough.
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31 Jan 2012 17:10 #22146
by Wand
Archbishop of Vitória
Replied by Wand on topic Re: Scarce tapnbleed
Great tips thought. I made some changes and here's the new config of the deck. I'll explain the goals and functions after the list.
Deck Name: setite_obeah
Created By: Andre Wandenkolken
Description:
Crypt: (12 cards, Min: 22, Max: 38, Avg: 7,75)
1 Abdelsobek for nec obf pre ser5 Followers of Set
1 Ahmose Chambers obf ser 3 Followers of Set
2 Matthew AUS FOR OBE cel7 Salubri
2 Nahum Enosh AUS OBE OBF VAL for pre10 Salubri
1 Ogwon OBF PRE SER for7 Followers of Set
3 Pentweret OBFPRE SER aus for obe9 Followers of Set
1 Porphyrion CHI OBF PRE SER for9 Followers of Set
1 Serenna the White AUS FOR OBE ani dem8 Salubri
Library: (90 cards)
Master (16 cards)
1 Archon Investigation
1 Cave of Apples
2 Heidelberg Castle, Germany
1 Khobar Towers, Al-Khubar
2 Spontaneous Power
1 Sudden Reversal
4 Vessel
4 Villein
Action (23 cards)
5 Enticement
4 Form of Corruption
5 Renewed Vigor
6 Spirit Marionette
3 Temptation
Action Modifier (22 cards)
4 Cloak the Gathering
6 Freak Drive
4 Repulsion
4 Truth of a Thousand Lies
4 Veil the Legions
Reaction (5 cards)
1 Delaying Tactics
4 On the Qui Vive
Combat (12 cards)
6 Anesthetic Touch
6 Majesty
Equipment (1 cards)
1 Journal of Hrorsh
Combo (11 cards)
7 Gift of Sleep
4 Penitent Resilience
The deck generates few stealth but some cards are the shared between the 2 clans (like gift of sleep) I think that this should be enough to make my actions and steal vampires.
To harass my opponent, I can use enticement and truth of a thousand lies to cause pool damage besides the marionettes. To bloat I put some Villeins and Vessels. 8 trifles in a 16 master deck. That should rotate faster and avoid to lock my hand. In adition I can use the Khobar towers to make more pool if a steal permanently any minion or with my own. To finish I can use one journal of hrosh to make more pool in some situations.
I guess that's it. With this setup will I be able to oust my prey effectivly?
Deck Name: setite_obeah
Created By: Andre Wandenkolken
Description:
Crypt: (12 cards, Min: 22, Max: 38, Avg: 7,75)
1 Abdelsobek for nec obf pre ser5 Followers of Set
1 Ahmose Chambers obf ser 3 Followers of Set
2 Matthew AUS FOR OBE cel7 Salubri
2 Nahum Enosh AUS OBE OBF VAL for pre10 Salubri
1 Ogwon OBF PRE SER for7 Followers of Set
3 Pentweret OBFPRE SER aus for obe9 Followers of Set
1 Porphyrion CHI OBF PRE SER for9 Followers of Set
1 Serenna the White AUS FOR OBE ani dem8 Salubri
Library: (90 cards)
Master (16 cards)
1 Archon Investigation
1 Cave of Apples
2 Heidelberg Castle, Germany
1 Khobar Towers, Al-Khubar
2 Spontaneous Power
1 Sudden Reversal
4 Vessel
4 Villein
Action (23 cards)
5 Enticement
4 Form of Corruption
5 Renewed Vigor
6 Spirit Marionette
3 Temptation
Action Modifier (22 cards)
4 Cloak the Gathering
6 Freak Drive
4 Repulsion
4 Truth of a Thousand Lies
4 Veil the Legions
Reaction (5 cards)
1 Delaying Tactics
4 On the Qui Vive
Combat (12 cards)
6 Anesthetic Touch
6 Majesty
Equipment (1 cards)
1 Journal of Hrorsh
Combo (11 cards)
7 Gift of Sleep
4 Penitent Resilience
The deck generates few stealth but some cards are the shared between the 2 clans (like gift of sleep) I think that this should be enough to make my actions and steal vampires.
To harass my opponent, I can use enticement and truth of a thousand lies to cause pool damage besides the marionettes. To bloat I put some Villeins and Vessels. 8 trifles in a 16 master deck. That should rotate faster and avoid to lock my hand. In adition I can use the Khobar towers to make more pool if a steal permanently any minion or with my own. To finish I can use one journal of hrosh to make more pool in some situations.
I guess that's it. With this setup will I be able to oust my prey effectivly?
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