file Demdemeh Ally Game Concept

01 Feb 2012 11:10 #22180 by Wand
Hi Everyone,

I recently had some ideas for vaious decks, so I'm gonna post some of them here to discuss and improve it. This is a weird deck (dunno if somebody already did that but never seen it around) based on demdemeh to create animal allies from animal retainers. Basically a bleed and ally wall deck. here's the list.

Deck Name: Elefantes
Created By: Andre Wandenkolken
Description:

Crypt: (12 cards, Min: 9, Max: 40, Avg: 5,41)
1 César Holfield obf 1 Caitiff
4 Demdemeh aus pre ANI CEL FOR VIC10 Tzimisce
1 Denette Stensen obf 2 Gangrel Antitribu
2 Florentina Lengauer aus OBF 4 Malkavian
2 Jeffrey Mullins cel OBF 4 Gangrel Antitribu
2 Lubomira Hradok OBF 3 Nosferatu Antitribu

Library: (90 cards)
Master (18 cards)
2 Charisma
1 Giant`s Blood
2 Jake Washington (Hunter)
1 Obfuscate
1 Presence
2 Secure Haven
4 Vessel
5 Villein

Action (6 cards)
2 Restoration
4 Summoning, The

Action Modifier (27 cards)
6 Cloak the Gathering
1 Enkil Cog
7 Forced March
6 Freak Drive
7 Veil the Legions

Combat (8 cards)
4 Majesty
4 Meld with the Land

Ally (8 cards)
1 Carlton Van Wyk (Hunter)
1 Gregory Winter
1 Mylan Horseed (Goblin)
1 Procurer
1 Vagabond Mystic
3 War Ghoul

Retainer (14 cards)
5 Elephant Guardian
2 Raven Spy
2 Revenant
5 Wolf Companion

Event (5 cards)
1 Absimiliard`s Army
1 Anthelios, the Red Star
1 Break the Code
2 Unmasking, The

Combo (4 cards)
4 Swallowed by the Night

1. How do you intend to oust?
By swarming with lots of minions who can bleed and bruise (the elephant guardians and wolf companions have 2 strenght and 1 bleed so they can hurt a bit) and stealth those bleeds with cloak the gathering and veil the legions using low cap obf minions along with demdemeh.

2. How do you intend to keep from being ousted?
Basically the unmasking could help the deck from being ousted. Many allies with 1 intercept, some with 2 (like carlton van wyk) and other allies who can do massive damage (like war ghoul), defending me from heavy bleed or vote decks. I can already do some villeins on demdemeh and restorate after that or put some vessels on the low cap minions to bloat. Charisma would help him to call the most of the minions for free and procurer can give them more blood.

3. What do you want your ready region to look like (ie, how many guys are you planning on getting out)?

Tons of minions (the animals would appear 1 for round, but there are more allies who could be called in the same turn like war ghoul, carlton, vagabond and procurer). More allies than vampires (I think about demdemeh and 2 more obf minions should be more than enough to do the setup). Absimiliard's army also can help the swarm to grow up each turn.

4. What do you want your average turn to look like?

Demdemeh multi-acting with forced march, freak drive and even mylan horseed untaping him to do many actions as possibly, calling retainers, allies or using the sumoning (first in inferior to get the most important minions on the hand or directly summoning them after put a master presence on him). Enkil Cog would help also to do more actions on other turns but is not so important. Charisma is a imoprtant card to allow him not to spend too much blood or pool on minions.

5. What's your metagame like? How do your opponents play?

there's pretty much everything on my metagame. People here like to play heavy combat decks, heavy voting decks, heavy bleed decks. Most part of the players here love to play ultra monster tournanment based decks focused on few things. But at the same time there's a lot of toolbox and funny decks too.

6. What problems have you observed with the deck in play?

I haven't played that yet because I'm gathering the cards to do the deck but before play I can see some problems like: immortal grapple based decks or similar ones can ruin it if secure haven doesn't come. Without charisma, the setup becomes expensive. And because of the slowness of the setup, heavy and fast pool damage decks can wipe it out in a matter of seconds but its ok, the concept is to have fun more than to win tons of competitions.

Well, that's it. Tips would be appreciated. Thanks ;D

Archbishop of Vitória

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01 Feb 2012 11:32 #22182 by Ohlmann
www.secretlibrary.info/index.php?crypt=971 maybe in the crypt ?

www.secretlibrary.info/index.php?deck=view&id=137 for a deck with a similar plan, but less commited to it, so it can have a pretty good alternative plan.

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01 Feb 2012 11:51 #22185 by Wand
Replied by Wand on topic Re: Demdemeh Ally Game Concept
wow,

nice tip on guedado. Have completely forgot him. The good thing about him is that he can call war ghoul and elephant guardian, but for the elephants I would have to put heidelberg back into the deck. Its a choice to test.

The similar deck is great. The vampires are used to defend while the elephants bleed and bruise. But as the author said, he could not bring demdemeh easily because he wasn't able to make enough pool to do that. with low cap minions and demdemeh as main vamp I think that I can do better.

In my first concept, I thought abous using zhenga to call many elephants as possible in the same action but I realized that it would be waste of time, as demdemeh's ability allows one ally per turn.

thanks anyway.

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01 Feb 2012 13:31 #22186 by Ohlmann
Also, only 4 Demdemdeh with 0 wider view mean you can really have crypt problems. I would either add ~4 wider view or put 3 more demdemdeh.

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01 Feb 2012 13:40 #22187 by Amenophobis
If you want a certain vampire in your opening uncontrolled region, 5 in 13 is the ideal number.

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01 Feb 2012 14:12 - 01 Feb 2012 14:15 #22191 by Wand
Replied by Wand on topic Re: Demdemeh Ally Game Concept
I put 1 more demdemeh and 2 guedado, plus pulled out 1 copy of each doubled obf vampires. 7 tzimisce and 5 other vampires. I think this is better now. I'll try to do some proxies and test the deck tonight. I'll post updates after that.

Thanks guys.


Almost forgot to ask: What did you guys think of the idea? Good, Bad, competitive, weak interesting, boring? ;D

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