file Demdemeh Ally Game Concept

01 Feb 2012 14:33 #22193 by Ohlmann
Quite frankly, hard to pull off because of the high number of moving part and seem very vulnerable against some strategy ; but worth trying, at least for the surprise effect.

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01 Feb 2012 18:00 #22205 by Wedge
Dream World could be good for a lung.

That said I think working in obfuscate and presence offers little synergy.

Demdemeh has :VIC: and :CEL: for stealth.
:CEL: :FOR: :ANI: :VIC: for combat and over 2/3rds of your retainers enhance damage output. I know you do not want them to stay of him, but I do not feel like you are going clear him of them very often.

The most natural card for the Demdemeh seems to be Pack Alpha.

For support vampires I suggest some or all of the following...

Aisata Swanou :abo: :ANI: :FOR: :VIC: :akun: :cap7: Group: 5
Laibon: During your master phase, you may draw a card and move a card from your hand to either your ash heap or the top of your library.

:VIC: stealth, pack alpha, :FOR: prevent and multi act

Adhiambo :pot: :ANI: :VIC: :tzim: :cap6: Group: 4
Laibon: Adhiambo gets +1 stealth when equipping with a weapon from your hand and +1 stealth on actions to enter combat with other minions.

:VIC: stealth, pack alpha and can recruit/employ everything Demdemeh can.

Abu Nuwasi :cel: :for: :isht: :cap3: Group: 4
Laibon.

Cheap, cycle forced march(etc) and diabrele

Elizabeth Conde :pre: :CEL: :FOR: :isht: :cap5: Group: 4
Laibon.

Shares :CEL: and :FOR: with Demdemeh

Based a crypt change, remove all :obf: and :pre: cards, combat ends,revenants and the secure havens.

In their place...

Pack Alpha, Sense the Savage Way, Changling, Plasmic Form, Resist Earth's Grasp, Psyche, Chiropteran Marauder, :for: prevention cards, 1 Shaman, 1 Owl Companion, 1-2 more Raven Spies

maybe...

Pentex, Heidelberg, Strange Day, Cats Guidance, Terra Incognita, Caine Hordes

I can't see your deck as I write this, so I am done for now.

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01 Feb 2012 19:27 #22211 by Wand
Replied by Wand on topic Re: Demdemeh Ally Game Concept
Great ideas for a more agressive concept. But thinking that vicissitude isn't the main discipline on this deck, maybe adhiambo should be avoided because she does not prevent any damage. The only minion the other vampires with fortitude would not be able to call is war ghoul but this task can stay only with demdemeh without any trouble.

Do you think maybe some kiss of ra in this deck could be great?

thanks.

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01 Feb 2012 19:55 #22220 by Wedge
On Kiss of Ra, I can't say but you can't freak drive or forced march after it so maybe not. You know your meta better than I, more than 1-2 would be overboard.

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01 Feb 2012 20:14 - 01 Feb 2012 21:51 #22223 by Wedge

Great ideas for a more agressive concept. But thinking that vicissitude isn't the main discipline on this deck, maybe adhiambo should be avoided because she does not prevent any damage. The only minion the other vampires with fortitude would not be able to call is war ghoul but this task can stay only with demdemeh without any trouble.


I wouldn't go over 8:VIC: cards, 3 Changling (bleed/stealth),3 Plasmic Form (stealth/dodge) and 2 C.M.(manuever/agg hands which can be 2 w/ pack alpha) seems right.

As for damage prevention you could also have Well-Marked though I don't know if you have room.

Last edit: 01 Feb 2012 21:51 by Wedge.

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02 Feb 2012 00:14 #22230 by Wand
Replied by Wand on topic Re: Demdemeh Ally Game Concept
So, I have tested it tonight and the deck did a great job even with 2 other ally decks as predator and prey. In the first round, before I raise demdemeh, my predator played unmasking and that almost destroyed my game, but luckly I played first hand a jake washington, threatening my prey to call other allies or important cards. What I know is that I did a VP and in the end demdemeh had 3 intercept, 2 elephant guardians, 1 wolf companion and 10 minions on the table. Maybe I should put more forced march and few freak drive to have stealth and use more lubomira to give veil and cloak the gathering.

The setup is still slow, but the allies with unmasking can hold my game while I biuld it. I think only heavy stealth and bleed decks would oust me easily. or a full combat deck in the early table.

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