Mono Vicissitude Toolbox
11 Apr 2012 11:17 - 11 Apr 2012 11:20 #27637
by Demnogonis Saastuttaja
Replied by Demnogonis Saastuttaja on topic Re: Mono Vicissitude Toolbox
Looks fine enough, but these days I'd always run bounce because your ousts take a lot of time and bounce often helps with that. Be it either dominate or auspex. I'd probably go for Dominate, there's a plenty of cheap vic dom guys.
I used to have a pretty successful weenie VIC deck some years ago, if you're interested in seeing it :
Deck Name : Mouths That Never Sing
Author : Demnogonis Saastuttaja
Description : Okay this doesn't seem to be the tournament version, I wonder where I lost that one. Doesn't even have Pentex, wtf. Anyway. Possibly my most successful Tzimisce archetype if nothing else.
Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity min: 1 max: 6 average: 4.08333
1x Corine Marcon 6 AUS VIC ani Tzimisce:2
1x Ana Rita Montana 5 VIC aus dom obf Tzimisce:3
1x Devin Bisley 5 ANI AUS vic Tzimisce:2
1x Elizabeth Westcott 5 AUS ani cel vic Tzimisce:3
1x Rose, The 5 PRE VIC aus Tzimisce:3
1x Lolita Houston 4 VIC aus Tzimisce:2
1x Ramiro 4 dom obt vic Lasombra:2
1x Hugo 4 POT vic pre !Brujah:2
1x Terrence 4 ani aus vic Tzimisce:2
1x Christine Boscacci 2 dom vic Pander:2
1x Horatio 2 vic Tzimisce:2
1x Olga Triminov 1 vic Pander:3
Library [90 cards]
Action [15]
2x Bum's Rush
2x Ambush
10x Fiendish Tongue
Action Modifier [8]
8x Changeling
Action Modifier/Combat [4]
4x Plasmic Form
Ally [3]
2x Asanbonsam Ghoul
1x Gregory Winter
Combat [29]
9x Breath of the Dragon
12x Chiropteran Marauder
6x Inner Essence
2x Skin Trap
Equipment [1]
1x Bowl of Convergence
Master [15]
1x Anarch Troublemaker
2x Auspex
1x Hungry Coyote
1x Fame
2x Rötschreck
4x Vessel
3x Vicissitude
1x WMRH Talk Radio
Reaction [15]
2x My Enemy's Enemy
4x On the Qui Vive
6x Telepathic Misdirection
3x Wake with Evening's Freshness
Retainer [1]
1x Mr. Winthrop
Crafted with : Anarch Revolt Deck Builder. [Mon May 18 16:33:11 2009]
I used to have a pretty successful weenie VIC deck some years ago, if you're interested in seeing it :
Deck Name : Mouths That Never Sing
Author : Demnogonis Saastuttaja
Description : Okay this doesn't seem to be the tournament version, I wonder where I lost that one. Doesn't even have Pentex, wtf. Anyway. Possibly my most successful Tzimisce archetype if nothing else.
Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity min: 1 max: 6 average: 4.08333
1x Corine Marcon 6 AUS VIC ani Tzimisce:2
1x Ana Rita Montana 5 VIC aus dom obf Tzimisce:3
1x Devin Bisley 5 ANI AUS vic Tzimisce:2
1x Elizabeth Westcott 5 AUS ani cel vic Tzimisce:3
1x Rose, The 5 PRE VIC aus Tzimisce:3
1x Lolita Houston 4 VIC aus Tzimisce:2
1x Ramiro 4 dom obt vic Lasombra:2
1x Hugo 4 POT vic pre !Brujah:2
1x Terrence 4 ani aus vic Tzimisce:2
1x Christine Boscacci 2 dom vic Pander:2
1x Horatio 2 vic Tzimisce:2
1x Olga Triminov 1 vic Pander:3
Library [90 cards]
Action [15]
2x Bum's Rush
2x Ambush
10x Fiendish Tongue
Action Modifier [8]
8x Changeling
Action Modifier/Combat [4]
4x Plasmic Form
Ally [3]
2x Asanbonsam Ghoul
1x Gregory Winter
Combat [29]
9x Breath of the Dragon
12x Chiropteran Marauder
6x Inner Essence
2x Skin Trap
Equipment [1]
1x Bowl of Convergence
Master [15]
1x Anarch Troublemaker
2x Auspex
1x Hungry Coyote
1x Fame
2x Rötschreck
4x Vessel
3x Vicissitude
1x WMRH Talk Radio
Reaction [15]
2x My Enemy's Enemy
4x On the Qui Vive
6x Telepathic Misdirection
3x Wake with Evening's Freshness
Retainer [1]
1x Mr. Winthrop
Crafted with : Anarch Revolt Deck Builder. [Mon May 18 16:33:11 2009]



Last edit: 11 Apr 2012 11:20 by Demnogonis Saastuttaja.
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11 Apr 2012 23:41 #27698
by Klaital
Replied by Klaital on topic Re: Mono Vicissitude Toolbox
That looks fairly similar to my deck, except you have added in some auspex. Here is an updated version that I played once now and won the table after a long war of attrition in the heads up phase with a Gargoyle hatchling swarm. I am thinking about switching the revenant back to a corpse balloon though as permanent manuevers would be quite helpful. Highlight of the game was Horatio bleeding for 5 (with simmons and living manse and fiendish tongue + changeling) which heralded the end for the gargoyles. 
Crypt:
1x Olga Triminov
1x Christine Boscacci
1x Horatio
2x Lolita Houston
1x Terrence
2x Ana Rita Montana
2x The Rose
1x Caliban
1x Corine Marcon
Library: 90
Master: 16
3x Effective Management
2x Lilith's Blessing
2x The Hungry Coyote
4x Tribute to the Master
3x Vicissitude
1x Wall Street Night, Financial Newspaper
1x WMRH Talk Radio
Action: 13
4x Abbot
9x Fiendish Tongue
Action Modifier: 12
9x Changeling
3x Plasmic Form
Ally: 4
4x Asanbonsam Ghoul
Combat: 30
8x Breath of the Dragon
12x Chiropteran Marauder
6x Inner Essence
4x Meld with the Land
Equipment: 5
1x Bowl of Convergence
1x Ivory Bow
3x Living Manse
Reaction: 6
6x On the Qui Vive
Retainer: 4
1x J. S. Simmons, Esq
1x Mr. Winthrop
1x Revenant
1x Tasha Morgan

Crypt:
1x Olga Triminov
1x Christine Boscacci
1x Horatio
2x Lolita Houston
1x Terrence
2x Ana Rita Montana
2x The Rose
1x Caliban
1x Corine Marcon
Library: 90
Master: 16
3x Effective Management
2x Lilith's Blessing
2x The Hungry Coyote
4x Tribute to the Master
3x Vicissitude
1x Wall Street Night, Financial Newspaper
1x WMRH Talk Radio
Action: 13
4x Abbot
9x Fiendish Tongue
Action Modifier: 12
9x Changeling
3x Plasmic Form
Ally: 4
4x Asanbonsam Ghoul
Combat: 30
8x Breath of the Dragon
12x Chiropteran Marauder
6x Inner Essence
4x Meld with the Land
Equipment: 5
1x Bowl of Convergence
1x Ivory Bow
3x Living Manse
Reaction: 6
6x On the Qui Vive
Retainer: 4
1x J. S. Simmons, Esq
1x Mr. Winthrop
1x Revenant
1x Tasha Morgan
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12 Apr 2012 03:38 #27705
by direwolf
Independent Futurist. Contrarian (titled, X votes where X is the number of votes as the acting minion.) Target Vitals is always the better combat card.
Replied by direwolf on topic Re: Mono Vicissitude Toolbox
I used to play a deck much like this all the time. I haven't updated it in years, but I think it's still together.
I recall using a couple Stealth Ritus (very underated card). I don't think I had so much combat, and more bleed defense.
I recall using a couple Stealth Ritus (very underated card). I don't think I had so much combat, and more bleed defense.




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13 Apr 2012 10:50 - 13 Apr 2012 10:51 #27805
by Demnogonis Saastuttaja
Replied by Demnogonis Saastuttaja on topic Re: Mono Vicissitude Toolbox
Also the G4 to 5 has these vicissitude guys :
1x Adhiambo 6 ANI VIC pot Tzimisce:4
1x Duality 6 AUS VIC ani Tzimisce:4
1x Dr. Morrow, The Sk 5 AUS VIC for Tzimisce:5
1x Luc 5 OBF dem vic !Malkavian:4
1x Nicomedes 5 aus for nec vic Harbinger:4
1x Uzoma 5 POT aus cel vic Osebo:4
1x Yuri Kerezenski 5 ANI aus for vic bishop Tzimisce:4
1x Guedado 4 aus obf vic Tzimisce:4
1x Jane Sims 4 VIC ani aus pro Tzimisce:4
1x Rashid Stockton 4 cel obf vic !Gangrel:5
1x Droescher One-Eye 3 ani vic Tzimisce:4
1x Ilias cel Frumos 3 aus vic Tzimisce:4
Only a bit larger in general, the possibility to construct a crypt with some black hand presence meaning any of Guarded Rubrics, Truth in Ink, Corporal Reservoir (which I think is really nice), Ministry, Art of Memory and so on become usable. Nicomedes has a pretty nice special. Villein/LB counters the increased price nicely, and gets you the ability to fix their Vic somewhat effectively. There's also the possibility to use some laibon for such cards as Tshwane and that pesky rush location (whatever it is).
Just something to consider.
1x Adhiambo 6 ANI VIC pot Tzimisce:4
1x Duality 6 AUS VIC ani Tzimisce:4
1x Dr. Morrow, The Sk 5 AUS VIC for Tzimisce:5
1x Luc 5 OBF dem vic !Malkavian:4
1x Nicomedes 5 aus for nec vic Harbinger:4
1x Uzoma 5 POT aus cel vic Osebo:4
1x Yuri Kerezenski 5 ANI aus for vic bishop Tzimisce:4
1x Guedado 4 aus obf vic Tzimisce:4
1x Jane Sims 4 VIC ani aus pro Tzimisce:4
1x Rashid Stockton 4 cel obf vic !Gangrel:5
1x Droescher One-Eye 3 ani vic Tzimisce:4
1x Ilias cel Frumos 3 aus vic Tzimisce:4
Only a bit larger in general, the possibility to construct a crypt with some black hand presence meaning any of Guarded Rubrics, Truth in Ink, Corporal Reservoir (which I think is really nice), Ministry, Art of Memory and so on become usable. Nicomedes has a pretty nice special. Villein/LB counters the increased price nicely, and gets you the ability to fix their Vic somewhat effectively. There's also the possibility to use some laibon for such cards as Tshwane and that pesky rush location (whatever it is).
Just something to consider.



Last edit: 13 Apr 2012 10:51 by Demnogonis Saastuttaja.
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