Dylan toolbox		
	
	
			
	
						20 Apr 2012 10:26		 -  20 Apr 2012 13:25		#28228
		by Sjone
	
	
		
			
	
	
			 		
													
		
	
				Dylan toolbox was created by Sjone			
			
				Hi guys
I feel I would need your help with finishing touches on deck I am trying to build. My inspiration came from Adam Hulse's deck on thelasombra/twd. I have added some tweaks from my original idea about Dylan deck, but I am struggling with amount of cards now. I need to reduce deck size to 90 cards, but it has became really difficult for me. I would really appreaciate your ideas and tips how make it work like a funny toolbox despite of keeping this concept.
Many thanks in advance
*note about crypt: I am even thinking to remove one Anarch Convert and replace with basic Dylan, but still not so sure.
Crypt (13 cards; Capacity min=1 max=8 avg=4.38)
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5x Anarch Convert 1 -none- Caitiff:ANY
2x Dylan ADV 6 aus cel dai dom pro FOR !Ventrue:2
2x Joseph O'Grady 7 aus cel DOM FOR !Ventrue:3
2x Kyoko Shinsegawa 5 aus cel dom for Tremere:3
2x Owain Evans, The Wanderer 8 cel pre AUS DOM FOR !Ventrue:3
Library (89 cards)
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Master (17)
(-1x Anarch Free Press, The)
1x Anarch Troublemaker
1x Demonstration
1x Depravity
1x Direct Intervention
1x Dreams of the Sphinx
1x Giant's Blood
2x Infamous Insurgent
1x Lilith's Blessing
1x Perfectionist
1x Powerbase: Los Angeles
2x Twilight Camp
(-1x Vast Wealth)
4x Vessel
Event (1)
1x NSA Trio
Action (15)
(-1x Aranthebes, The Immortal)
2x Concordance
1x Fee Stake: Corte
1x Fee Stake: Los Angeles
1x Fee Stake: Perth
1x Fee Stake: Seattle
7x Govern the Unaligned
1x Open War
1x Status Perfectus
Political Action (3)
2x Kine Resources Contested
1x Neonate Breach
Equipment (2)
(-1x Bowl of Convergence)
1x Ivory Bow
1x Sargon Fragment, The
Ally (1)
1x Carlton Van Wyk (Hunter)
Action Modifier (12)
2x Conditioning
3x Daring the Dawn
3x Forced March
1x Foreshadowing Destruction
3x Freak Drive
Reaction (17)
9x Deflection
(-4x Eyes of Argus)
(-2x My Enemy's Enemy)
6x On the Qui Vive
(-1x Telepathic Counter)
2x Wake with Evening's Freshness
Combat (21)
12x Diversion
2x Dodge
2x Superior Mettle
3x Taste of Vitae
2x Weighted Walking Stick
Edited as per discussion
					I feel I would need your help with finishing touches on deck I am trying to build. My inspiration came from Adam Hulse's deck on thelasombra/twd. I have added some tweaks from my original idea about Dylan deck, but I am struggling with amount of cards now. I need to reduce deck size to 90 cards, but it has became really difficult for me. I would really appreaciate your ideas and tips how make it work like a funny toolbox despite of keeping this concept.
Many thanks in advance
*note about crypt: I am even thinking to remove one Anarch Convert and replace with basic Dylan, but still not so sure.
Crypt (13 cards; Capacity min=1 max=8 avg=4.38)
===============================================
5x Anarch Convert 1 -none- Caitiff:ANY
2x Dylan ADV 6 aus cel dai dom pro FOR !Ventrue:2
2x Joseph O'Grady 7 aus cel DOM FOR !Ventrue:3
2x Kyoko Shinsegawa 5 aus cel dom for Tremere:3
2x Owain Evans, The Wanderer 8 cel pre AUS DOM FOR !Ventrue:3
Library (89 cards)
==================
Master (17)
(-1x Anarch Free Press, The)
1x Anarch Troublemaker
1x Demonstration
1x Depravity
1x Direct Intervention
1x Dreams of the Sphinx
1x Giant's Blood
2x Infamous Insurgent
1x Lilith's Blessing
1x Perfectionist
1x Powerbase: Los Angeles
2x Twilight Camp
(-1x Vast Wealth)
4x Vessel
Event (1)
1x NSA Trio
Action (15)
(-1x Aranthebes, The Immortal)
2x Concordance
1x Fee Stake: Corte
1x Fee Stake: Los Angeles
1x Fee Stake: Perth
1x Fee Stake: Seattle
7x Govern the Unaligned
1x Open War
1x Status Perfectus
Political Action (3)
2x Kine Resources Contested
1x Neonate Breach
Equipment (2)
(-1x Bowl of Convergence)
1x Ivory Bow
1x Sargon Fragment, The
Ally (1)
1x Carlton Van Wyk (Hunter)
Action Modifier (12)
2x Conditioning
3x Daring the Dawn
3x Forced March
1x Foreshadowing Destruction
3x Freak Drive
Reaction (17)
9x Deflection
(-4x Eyes of Argus)
(-2x My Enemy's Enemy)
6x On the Qui Vive
(-1x Telepathic Counter)
2x Wake with Evening's Freshness
Combat (21)
12x Diversion
2x Dodge
2x Superior Mettle
3x Taste of Vitae
2x Weighted Walking Stick
Edited as per discussion
		Last edit: 20 Apr 2012 13:25  by Sjone.		Reason: Edited as per discussion	
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						20 Apr 2012 10:37		 -  20 Apr 2012 10:37		#28232
		by Pendargon
	
	
		
			
					
					
 
 
 
 
 
 
				
					
	
	
			 		
													
		
	
				Replied by Pendargon on topic Re: Dylan toolbox			
			
				deck is a bit all over the place, if you ask me
4 fee stakes for 3 political actions, one wast wealth and NSA trio for 3 equipments, 4 eyes of argus with only 2 copies of the same vampire with superior auspex in the crypt, aranthebes for no articular reason, disciplinless dodge when you have perfectly good for/cel/sticks anarch combat...
I am not so sure what are you actually trying to achieve here.
It would work tons better as a straightforward dom/for/cel anarch bruise/bleed, imho
							4 fee stakes for 3 political actions, one wast wealth and NSA trio for 3 equipments, 4 eyes of argus with only 2 copies of the same vampire with superior auspex in the crypt, aranthebes for no articular reason, disciplinless dodge when you have perfectly good for/cel/sticks anarch combat...
I am not so sure what are you actually trying to achieve here.
It would work tons better as a straightforward dom/for/cel anarch bruise/bleed, imho
		Last edit: 20 Apr 2012 10:37  by Pendargon.			
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						20 Apr 2012 11:26				#28234
		by Demnogonis Saastuttaja
	
	
		
			
					
					
 
 
				
					
	
			
			 		
													
		
				Replied by Demnogonis Saastuttaja on topic Re: Dylan toolbox			
			
				I'd remove all this :
- 1x Demonstration
- 2x Infamous Insurgent
- 1x Vast Wealth
- 1x NSA Trio
- 1x Concordance
- 4x Fee Stake
- 1x Open War
- 1x Status Perfectus
- 2x Kine Resources Contested
- 1x Neonate Breach
- 1x Sargon Fragment, The
- 3x Daring the Dawn
- 3x Freak Drive
- 1x Telepathic Counter
- 2x Dodge
That's 25 cards, putting you at 72 cards, leaving room for ousting cards, combat cards or whatever. I'd add one Contagion at least and constant revolution if that doesn't require anything else than an anarch. My reasoning is that these cards are too difficult to use (such as concordance/Daring combo), too crap (Status Perfectus) or unnecessary otherwise (the voting stuff) in my opinion.
							- 1x Demonstration
- 2x Infamous Insurgent
- 1x Vast Wealth
- 1x NSA Trio
- 1x Concordance
- 4x Fee Stake
- 1x Open War
- 1x Status Perfectus
- 2x Kine Resources Contested
- 1x Neonate Breach
- 1x Sargon Fragment, The
- 3x Daring the Dawn
- 3x Freak Drive
- 1x Telepathic Counter
- 2x Dodge
That's 25 cards, putting you at 72 cards, leaving room for ousting cards, combat cards or whatever. I'd add one Contagion at least and constant revolution if that doesn't require anything else than an anarch. My reasoning is that these cards are too difficult to use (such as concordance/Daring combo), too crap (Status Perfectus) or unnecessary otherwise (the voting stuff) in my opinion.
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						20 Apr 2012 11:46				#28236
		by Boris The Blade
	
	
		
			
	
			
			 		
													
		
				Replied by Boris The Blade on topic Re: Dylan toolbox			
			
				Remove Infamous Insurgent? 
 That's the whole point of the deck, the one reason to play Dylan ADV instead of the base one.			
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						20 Apr 2012 12:16				#28237
		by Demnogonis Saastuttaja
	
	
		
			
					
					
 
 
				
					
	
			
			 		
													
		
				Replied by Demnogonis Saastuttaja on topic Re: Dylan toolbox			
			
				I thought it was because he has strength and aus cel for dom. Infamous Insurgent doesn't seem that great to me.			
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						20 Apr 2012 12:29				#28239
		by Ohlmann
	
	
		
			
				
You're right, free Rutor hand is overrated. Sarcasm apart, maybe you have not seen that since Dylan is already infernal, the card does not cost additional pool per turn ?
					
	
			
			 		
													
		
	
				Replied by Ohlmann on topic Re: Dylan toolbox			
			I thought it was because he has strength and aus cel for dom. Infamous Insurgent doesn't seem that great to me.
You're right, free Rutor hand is overrated. Sarcasm apart, maybe you have not seen that since Dylan is already infernal, the card does not cost additional pool per turn ?
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