Harbingers Tap'n'Bleed
26 Apr 2012 09:36 #28752
by BobbyDoc
Harbingers Tap'n'Bleed was created by BobbyDoc
Those who know me know that I love Mind Numb. Have successfully tried different archetypes including "!Tor Palla Grande", "Ishtarri multi actions" and "weenie presence".
I was thinking if I could do a similar thing with "Jar the Soul". It is of course weaker than mind numb, but have a couple of things going for it; cost nothing, burns a blood and works on allies.
Here is the deck. Is this path worth investigating?
CRYPT:
2 Unre (9, Harbringer, AUS, dom, FOR, NEC, Bishop, +1 bleed)
1 Anisa (8, Harbringer, aus, FOR, NEC, can burn <4 as d-action that costs 1 pool)
3 Egotha (7, Harbringer, AUS, FOR, NEC, discard top card from prey gain 1 blood if master)
3 Le Dinh Tho (5, aus dom NEC, Nagaraja, 2, Independent: Tho may look at another Methuselah's hand and discard one card from it as a +1 stealth
action (that Methuselah draws back up to his or her hand size). He gets -1 stealth when hunting. Scarce)
1 Gisela (7, Harbringer, aus, FOR, NEC, Priscus, can burn unc vamp and pay cost)
2 Agaitas (6, Harbringer, AUS, for, NEC, replace card from prey)
Masters (17)
4 Villein
4 Slaughterhouse
1 Liliths Blessing
2 Wider View
1 Giants Blood
3 Perfectionist
1 Misdirection
1 Heidelberg
Actions (9)
1 Chair of Hades
8 Jar the Soul
Action Modifiers (32)
7 Spectral divination
7 Call of the Hungry Dead
10 Freak Drive
1 Daring the Dawn
5 Trochomancy
2 Din of the Damned
Combat (8)
8 Spiritual Intervention
Reactions (16)
6 Telepathic Misdirection
2 My Enemys Enemy
4 Eyes of Argus
4 On the Qui Vie
Equipment /Retainers (8)
4 Camera Phone
1 Bowl of Convergence
1 Erebus Mask
1 Tasha Morgan
1 J.S Simmons
Cheers
Robert
I was thinking if I could do a similar thing with "Jar the Soul". It is of course weaker than mind numb, but have a couple of things going for it; cost nothing, burns a blood and works on allies.
Here is the deck. Is this path worth investigating?
CRYPT:
2 Unre (9, Harbringer, AUS, dom, FOR, NEC, Bishop, +1 bleed)
1 Anisa (8, Harbringer, aus, FOR, NEC, can burn <4 as d-action that costs 1 pool)
3 Egotha (7, Harbringer, AUS, FOR, NEC, discard top card from prey gain 1 blood if master)
3 Le Dinh Tho (5, aus dom NEC, Nagaraja, 2, Independent: Tho may look at another Methuselah's hand and discard one card from it as a +1 stealth

1 Gisela (7, Harbringer, aus, FOR, NEC, Priscus, can burn unc vamp and pay cost)
2 Agaitas (6, Harbringer, AUS, for, NEC, replace card from prey)
Masters (17)
4 Villein
4 Slaughterhouse
1 Liliths Blessing
2 Wider View
1 Giants Blood
3 Perfectionist
1 Misdirection
1 Heidelberg
Actions (9)
1 Chair of Hades
8 Jar the Soul
Action Modifiers (32)
7 Spectral divination
7 Call of the Hungry Dead
10 Freak Drive
1 Daring the Dawn
5 Trochomancy
2 Din of the Damned
Combat (8)
8 Spiritual Intervention
Reactions (16)
6 Telepathic Misdirection
2 My Enemys Enemy
4 Eyes of Argus
4 On the Qui Vie
Equipment /Retainers (8)
4 Camera Phone
1 Bowl of Convergence
1 Erebus Mask
1 Tasha Morgan
1 J.S Simmons
Cheers
Robert
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26 Apr 2012 10:19 #28756
by Ashur
"My strategy? Luck is my strategy, of course."
Replied by Ashur on topic Re: Harbingers Tap'n'Bleed
I tried this some months ago, very much like your one. It wasn´t all bad, but it wasn´t as efficient as a normal Giovanni power-bleeder.
I missed out on Le Dinh Tho in my version. Kind of stupid as he is just about the best vamp in the game. I went for Mina Grotius instead, stupid me.
Try 1-2 codex in place of 1-2 phones?
Dim of the Damned is not very good. 2 more Daring instead.
I missed out on Le Dinh Tho in my version. Kind of stupid as he is just about the best vamp in the game. I went for Mina Grotius instead, stupid me.
Try 1-2 codex in place of 1-2 phones?
Dim of the Damned is not very good. 2 more Daring instead.
"My strategy? Luck is my strategy, of course."
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26 Apr 2012 13:58 #28764
by brandonsantacruz
Be careful when you fight the monsters, lest you become one.
-Friedrich Nietzsche
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Replied by brandonsantacruz on topic Re: Harbingers Tap'n'Bleed
I would drop the Slaughterhouses. With all of your +bleed equipment and retainers, use another Heidelberg Castle, 1x Anarch Troublemaker, 1x Wash, and 1x Pentex Subversion instead. Don't try to rush the game and you will have plenty of cards in your prey's ash heap. 3x perfectionist is 1 or 2 too many. Same with Freak Drive, you are just trying to tap and bleed, so 6 or 7 should be enough.
A few different ideas:
-Unre and Le both have dominate. How about 1 or 2 conditionings for surprize bleed?
-Abbott is great for Harbingers
-Unre has serpentis, so maybe 1x form of corruption if she is the star.
-4 camera phones is too many. I suggest using some bleed actions in here so tha you don't choke on equipment.
Good luck!
A few different ideas:
-Unre and Le both have dominate. How about 1 or 2 conditionings for surprize bleed?
-Abbott is great for Harbingers
-Unre has serpentis, so maybe 1x form of corruption if she is the star.
-4 camera phones is too many. I suggest using some bleed actions in here so tha you don't choke on equipment.
Good luck!
Be careful when you fight the monsters, lest you become one.
-Friedrich Nietzsche
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26 Apr 2012 17:35 #28771
by Azel
Replied by Azel on topic Re: Harbingers Tap'n'Bleed
Call & Divination is traditional NEC "stealth" package and tended to hemorrhage blood trying to get Giovanni power bleed on through. Considering you're doing HoS (not normally power bleed) and Freaks on top of this, it's going to get dry real fast. Why don't you switch wholly to your tap 'n bleed idea?
Run Freaks & Jars, but emphasize Croc Tongues with the occasional Daring or NEC stealth as support. A splash of Pulse of Canaille, as bleeds for three tend to draw out blocks more. You'll need a few Change of Targets for your high native bleeds. A surprise Kiss of Ra is fun, too.
As silly as my previous HoS deck was, Capitalist & Forgery drew me quite a bit of blood, enough so that I was really thinking about a Shambling version. Perfectionist & Forgery should leave you ending up in a similar position. As costly as HoS are, is 4 Villein enough recursion over the long term? They aren't exactly big caps, but they aren't cheap either... I'd personally favor more pool recursion and more method diversity.
I wish I had that many Spirit Interventions. Even still, I'd sprinkle Mercy for Seth -- kills imbued dead. It alternates as an annoyance, draining off an action.
Run Freaks & Jars, but emphasize Croc Tongues with the occasional Daring or NEC stealth as support. A splash of Pulse of Canaille, as bleeds for three tend to draw out blocks more. You'll need a few Change of Targets for your high native bleeds. A surprise Kiss of Ra is fun, too.
As silly as my previous HoS deck was, Capitalist & Forgery drew me quite a bit of blood, enough so that I was really thinking about a Shambling version. Perfectionist & Forgery should leave you ending up in a similar position. As costly as HoS are, is 4 Villein enough recursion over the long term? They aren't exactly big caps, but they aren't cheap either... I'd personally favor more pool recursion and more method diversity.
I wish I had that many Spirit Interventions. Even still, I'd sprinkle Mercy for Seth -- kills imbued dead. It alternates as an annoyance, draining off an action.
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