Themistocles' tryout
06 May 2012 11:03 #29517
by brandonsantacruz
Be careful when you fight the monsters, lest you become one.
-Friedrich Nietzsche
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Themistocles' tryout was created by brandonsantacruz
Per our discussion
here
I made a deck to see how well Themistocles tags along with Dmitra and Count Germaine. Please let me know what you think!
How do you intend to oust?
Bleeds and Fame
How do you intend to not be ousted?
Bloat from Villein, beat up dudes who look threatening.
How many guys do you expect to get out?
I'd say about two as long as I see a Villein or can use a blood doll early.
What should your average turn look like?
Two actions per minion. Choices are:
-tool-up
-rush
-bleed
-enchant down
What problems do you anticipate with this deck?
-It isn't that hard to oust as long as you have ready minions.
-There are too many master cards, so hand jam may occur.
Deck Name: Brujah with for feat. Themistocles
Author: Brandon Haas
Description:
Crypt (12 cards; Capacity min=8 max=10 avg=8.83)
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3x Armin Brenner 10 ani obf CEL FOR POT PRE !Brujah:4
1x Count Germaine ADV 8 obf CEL FOR POT PRE Brujah:4
2x Count Germaine 8 obf CEL FOR POT PRE Brujah:4
3x Dmitra Ilyanova 9 obf CEL FOR POT PRE Brujah:5
1x Hektor 9 for CEL POT PRE QUI !Brujah:4
2x Themistocles 8 pre AUS CEL FOR POT Brujah:5
Library (82 cards)
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Master (18)
1x Archon Investigation
2x Blood Doll
1x Dreams of the Sphinx
3x Fame
1x Giant's Blood
2x Haven Uncovered
1x Information Highway
1x Perfectionist
4x Villein
2x Wash
Action (18)
1x Big Game
4x Bum's Rush
4x Enchant Kindred
1x Fleetness
2x Harass
1x Heart of the City
1x Heroic Might
3x Preternatural Strength
1x War Party
Equipment (1)
1x Heart of Nizchetus
Action Modifier (14)
10x Forced March
4x Freak Drive
Combat (27)
2x Amaranth
5x Disarm
4x Hidden Strength
8x Immortal Grapple
4x Pursuit
2x Resilience
2x Skin of Steel
Combo (4)
4x Resist Earth's Grasp
Created with Secret Library v0.9.3. (May 6, 2012 15:57:31)
How do you intend to oust?
Bleeds and Fame
How do you intend to not be ousted?
Bloat from Villein, beat up dudes who look threatening.
How many guys do you expect to get out?
I'd say about two as long as I see a Villein or can use a blood doll early.
What should your average turn look like?
Two actions per minion. Choices are:
-tool-up
-rush
-bleed
-enchant down
What problems do you anticipate with this deck?
-It isn't that hard to oust as long as you have ready minions.
-There are too many master cards, so hand jam may occur.
Deck Name: Brujah with for feat. Themistocles
Author: Brandon Haas
Description:
Crypt (12 cards; Capacity min=8 max=10 avg=8.83)
================================================
3x Armin Brenner 10 ani obf CEL FOR POT PRE !Brujah:4
1x Count Germaine ADV 8 obf CEL FOR POT PRE Brujah:4
2x Count Germaine 8 obf CEL FOR POT PRE Brujah:4
3x Dmitra Ilyanova 9 obf CEL FOR POT PRE Brujah:5
1x Hektor 9 for CEL POT PRE QUI !Brujah:4
2x Themistocles 8 pre AUS CEL FOR POT Brujah:5
Library (82 cards)
==================
Master (18)
1x Archon Investigation
2x Blood Doll
1x Dreams of the Sphinx
3x Fame
1x Giant's Blood
2x Haven Uncovered
1x Information Highway
1x Perfectionist
4x Villein
2x Wash
Action (18)
1x Big Game
4x Bum's Rush
4x Enchant Kindred
1x Fleetness
2x Harass
1x Heart of the City
1x Heroic Might
3x Preternatural Strength
1x War Party
Equipment (1)
1x Heart of Nizchetus
Action Modifier (14)
10x Forced March
4x Freak Drive
Combat (27)
2x Amaranth
5x Disarm
4x Hidden Strength
8x Immortal Grapple
4x Pursuit
2x Resilience
2x Skin of Steel
Combo (4)
4x Resist Earth's Grasp
Created with Secret Library v0.9.3. (May 6, 2012 15:57:31)
Be careful when you fight the monsters, lest you become one.
-Friedrich Nietzsche
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06 May 2012 11:40 - 06 May 2012 11:41 #29518
by Surreal
Replied by Surreal on topic Re: Themistocles' tryout
I think you need to think basics of the deck more. Only 4x Villein and smallest vampire 8 cap will mean you have to salmon rush a lot. You are locked instantly and have to go full defensive mode if you face aggressive predator.
EDIT
I would think adding some smaller Osebo support and add AUS if you want to use Themistocles.
EDIT
I would think adding some smaller Osebo support and add AUS if you want to use Themistocles.
Last edit: 06 May 2012 11:41 by Surreal.
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06 May 2012 12:04 #29521
by Suoli
Replied by Suoli on topic Re: Themistocles' tryout
You are trying to multirush with big caps that, except for Hektor, have no relevant specials. This may be the best that can be done with Themistocles but it's nowhere near the best that could be done with this concept.
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06 May 2012 13:53 - 06 May 2012 13:55 #29529
by Jeff Kuta
When you are anvil, be patient; when a hammer, strike.





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Replied by Jeff Kuta on topic Re: Themistocles' tryout
While Armin has your disciplines, you're not using his special, so he can be cut back. I see Klaus Konrecht as a decent replacement. I think you need more blood management and pool gain.
-2 Armin
+2 Klaus Konrecht
-1 Dmitra Ilyanova (yes, she's awesome, but her greatness makes Themistocles pale in comparison)
+1 Don Cerro
-1 Fame
-1 Haven Uncovered
-1 Wash
+1 Auspex (to get Dmitra to 10-cap)
+2 Villein
-4 Enchant Kindred
+4 Social Charm (I think EK is weak bloat. Forward pressure backed up by big fist will be better for you in the long run. Bleeds for 2 are fairly responsible.)
-1 Fleetness
+1 Seal of Veddartha (for Hektor, Klaus Konrecht, Don Cerro)
-2 Skin of Steel (Fortitude that costs blood is not so great.)
-1 Amaranch
-1 Disarm
+2 Soak
+2 Iron Glare (Lunge)
AND
To get you to 90 until you decide how things work (all usable by Themistocles and Klaus at AUS, and Don Cerro at aus:
+4 Telepathic Misdirection
+2 Eyes of Argus
+2 On the Qui Vive (for everyone)
P.S. I added the Aus skill card so you'd have another 10-cap, but then I cut her back. Enkil Cog ftw.
-2 Armin
+2 Klaus Konrecht
-1 Dmitra Ilyanova (yes, she's awesome, but her greatness makes Themistocles pale in comparison)
+1 Don Cerro
-1 Fame
-1 Haven Uncovered
-1 Wash
+1 Auspex (to get Dmitra to 10-cap)
+2 Villein
-4 Enchant Kindred
+4 Social Charm (I think EK is weak bloat. Forward pressure backed up by big fist will be better for you in the long run. Bleeds for 2 are fairly responsible.)
-1 Fleetness
+1 Seal of Veddartha (for Hektor, Klaus Konrecht, Don Cerro)
-2 Skin of Steel (Fortitude that costs blood is not so great.)
-1 Amaranch
-1 Disarm
+2 Soak
+2 Iron Glare (Lunge)
AND
To get you to 90 until you decide how things work (all usable by Themistocles and Klaus at AUS, and Don Cerro at aus:
+4 Telepathic Misdirection
+2 Eyes of Argus
+2 On the Qui Vive (for everyone)
P.S. I added the Aus skill card so you'd have another 10-cap, but then I cut her back. Enkil Cog ftw.
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Last edit: 06 May 2012 13:55 by Jeff Kuta.
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06 May 2012 19:21 #29543
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Replied by Juggernaut1981 on topic Re: Themistocles' tryout
-4 Resist Earth's Grasp
+4 Misc
stealth
-1 Perfectionist
-1 Giant's Blood
+1 Archon Investigation
+1 Dreams
+8 Iron Glare
OR
+6 Iron Glare, +1 Camera Phone, +1 Heart of the City
I'm a bit iffy about using Armin and not just tossing in a smaller chump Brujah who may lack the
. They can help you with taking out the last few pool on a prey.
+4 Misc

-1 Perfectionist
-1 Giant's Blood
+1 Archon Investigation
+1 Dreams
+8 Iron Glare
OR
+6 Iron Glare, +1 Camera Phone, +1 Heart of the City
I'm a bit iffy about using Armin and not just tossing in a smaller chump Brujah who may lack the






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