Black Annis
03 Jul 2012 11:37 #32708
by Reyda
Imagination is our only weapon in the war against reality -Jules de Gaultier
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Quick reply : black with bravo blocked by chump blocker, carlton or recurring Jake Washington = no blood for you :/
Sociopath can also give you blood during other methuselah's turns if you block ( on the qui vive...)
But it's a personal experience
Sociopath can also give you blood during other methuselah's turns if you block ( on the qui vive...)
But it's a personal experience

Imagination is our only weapon in the war against reality -Jules de Gaultier
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03 Jul 2012 14:57 - 03 Jul 2012 14:57 #32720
by prunesquallor
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Depending on your meta, you may want to branch out from Slam as your source of maneuvers.
It's not too uncommon for a gun deck, or a deck that avoids combat, to pack a fair number of maneuvers from obfuscate or celerity. They want to stay at long to ensure being able to strike : combat ends, or to set up their gun or some other strike. If they maneuver away and you don't have a slam, or if they have multiple maneuvers, your combat will fail. And with a star rush minion, you can't afford to enter combat to have it just end with a long-range S:CE.
At most, you're getting one maneuver a round from the Slam. I'd suggest either some Protean skill cards to get Black Annis up to superior protean so you can use the maneuvers from the Claws of the Dead, or get some more maneuvers from Obfuscate.
It's not too uncommon for a gun deck, or a deck that avoids combat, to pack a fair number of maneuvers from obfuscate or celerity. They want to stay at long to ensure being able to strike : combat ends, or to set up their gun or some other strike. If they maneuver away and you don't have a slam, or if they have multiple maneuvers, your combat will fail. And with a star rush minion, you can't afford to enter combat to have it just end with a long-range S:CE.
At most, you're getting one maneuver a round from the Slam. I'd suggest either some Protean skill cards to get Black Annis up to superior protean so you can use the maneuvers from the Claws of the Dead, or get some more maneuvers from Obfuscate.
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03 Jul 2012 15:05 #32722
by prunesquallor
Since Black Annis has built-in +1 stealth, the chump-block won't happen as often. I think it depends on the meta-game which is the better card for this deck. Lots of fortitude and strike : combat ends? Sociopath won't be so good. Lots of intercept and expendable minions? Then Bravo won't be so good.
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Quick reply : black with bravo blocked by chump blocker, carlton or recurring Jake Washington = no blood for you :/
Sociopath can also give you blood during other methuselah's turns if you block ( on the qui vive...)
But it's a personal experience
Since Black Annis has built-in +1 stealth, the chump-block won't happen as often. I think it depends on the meta-game which is the better card for this deck. Lots of fortitude and strike : combat ends? Sociopath won't be so good. Lots of intercept and expendable minions? Then Bravo won't be so good.
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03 Jul 2012 16:38 #32728
by Dorrinal
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I don't know about Games of Instinct but I think you would be better off dropping the Black Hand angle (keep 1 Soldat and 1 Nails, they're great) and adding Nosferatu Kingdom. It's not acceleration, so much as steady pool gain.@dorrinal. I like your suggestions for the most part. Except maybe for Yawp Court. That would require me to remain untapped. I'm not going to stay untapped with a 9-cap rusher. Ditto with whoever else I manage to influence out. Against voters, I just rush them instead of waiting. I do like Street Cred though. So much that I'm trying to figure out a way to add like 6 copies.
@reyda: Why is Sociopath better? I won't always burn or torpor a minion while Annis will always get into combat with Bravo. Carver will be added. Nosferatu Kingdom, I love, but it's 2 pool and I can't use it as acceleration on turn 1. Montreal, I can.
Be back with a new list featuring Street Cred! Also, I played it and it's difficult with only two actions per turn. I'm thinking of dumping the BLACK HAND angle and just use weenie sabbat POTENCE with Games of Instinct fun.
Thoughts?

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03 Jul 2012 23:05 #32735
by TorranceCircle
Games of Instinct is is fun with a weenie potence deck, until you face imbued. Then it is a wasted slot. This cost me a chance to win a tournament with my blood brothers deck. I think Rumble is a better choice.
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I'm thinking of dumping the BLACK HAND angle and just use weenie sabbat POTENCE with Games of Instinct fun.
Thoughts?
Games of Instinct is is fun with a weenie potence deck, until you face imbued. Then it is a wasted slot. This cost me a chance to win a tournament with my blood brothers deck. I think Rumble is a better choice.
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