Assamite power bleed
16 Apr 2011 22:48 - 16 Apr 2011 22:52 #3451
by Klaital
Assamite power bleed was created by Klaital
Basic idea is simple, bleed for 2-3 with lots of block denial and attrition, I have tweaked it quite a bit from its original incarnation and I think its starting to look pretty good now, but there has still likely been some cards I haven't thought off, so comments and suggestions welcome. I would love to play some momentary delays, blind spots, and torrents here too, but not sure how to fit those in.
Crypt:
1x Sukainah
1x Bertrand D'Anjou
1x Hafsa, The Watcher
1x Djuhah, The Bronze Bow
2x Antara
2x Kabede Maru
4x Dmitri Borodin
Library: 90
Master: 17
3x Auspex
1x Giant's Blood
8x Grooming the Protége
3x The Path of Blood
2x Yoruba Shrine
Action: 18
4x Condemn the Sins of the Father
4x Khabar: Glory
10x Truth of Blood
Action Modifier: 20
5x Blood Awakening
8x Crocodile's Tongue
5x Deed the Heart's Desire
2x Trochomancy
Combat: 20
6x Preternatural Evasion
6x Sideslip
8x Thin Blood
Reaction: 15
5x Eyes of Argus
3x Foul Blood
7x Telepathic Misdirection
Crypt:
1x Sukainah
1x Bertrand D'Anjou
1x Hafsa, The Watcher
1x Djuhah, The Bronze Bow
2x Antara
2x Kabede Maru
4x Dmitri Borodin
Library: 90
Master: 17
3x Auspex
1x Giant's Blood
8x Grooming the Protége
3x The Path of Blood
2x Yoruba Shrine
Action: 18
4x Condemn the Sins of the Father
4x Khabar: Glory
10x Truth of Blood
Action Modifier: 20
5x Blood Awakening
8x Crocodile's Tongue
5x Deed the Heart's Desire
2x Trochomancy
Combat: 20
6x Preternatural Evasion
6x Sideslip
8x Thin Blood
Reaction: 15
5x Eyes of Argus
3x Foul Blood
7x Telepathic Misdirection
Last edit: 16 Apr 2011 22:52 by Klaital.
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17 Apr 2011 06:33 - 17 Apr 2011 06:35 #3463
by Pullen




Replied by Pullen on topic Re: Assamite power bleed
Had something like this awhile back, was fun but Dmitri was the star and I ran bleed retainers and bounced them around with Heidelberg for more ousting power and to use Dmitri's spec more.
As for some changes i would...
-1x Grooming the Protége
-1x of each of your combat cards
-2x Telepathic Misdirection
that gives you 6 cards spaces, I would run 3x Torrents 2x My Enemy's Enemy and 1x Sacrificial Lamb
Gives you a little more versatility and with all the blood removal you're running you should be able to use the Sac Lamb on your prey every once in a while to help your big cap keep moving along.
As for some changes i would...
-1x Grooming the Protége
-1x of each of your combat cards
-2x Telepathic Misdirection
that gives you 6 cards spaces, I would run 3x Torrents 2x My Enemy's Enemy and 1x Sacrificial Lamb
Gives you a little more versatility and with all the blood removal you're running you should be able to use the Sac Lamb on your prey every once in a while to help your big cap keep moving along.





Last edit: 17 Apr 2011 06:35 by Pullen.
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17 Apr 2011 06:42 #3464
by Izaak
Replied by Izaak on topic Re: Assamite power bleed
I don't think you can affort the 2 blood cost of Torrent since you're playing Grooming already. I like the idea of the auspex assamite crypt and I think the general idea is good. I just can't help but wonder why you just don't rely on obfuscate to get stuff done. Croc's tongue followed by a Faceless Night or Elder Impersonation is mighty annoying. You should really just mix and match some obfuscate stealth in there. For example, lose 2 each of Blood Awakening and Deed the Heart's desire and add 2x Elder Impersonation and 2x Faceless Night. Lose 2 Crocodile's Tongue and add 2x Lost in Crowds. Diversity is the name of the game here.
I like the synergy between Thin Blood, Crocodile's Tongue and Foul Blood, so I think those should stay, but I'd cut out all your other combat and just rely on punch for 1. Maybe leave a few sideslips in there so you can punch 1 and prevent the hitback.
Your master selection needs work. The Grooming plan can certainly work, but you definately need a Wider View and a Dreams or two in there. One of the Yoruba Shrines can go and, since you will rely on Dmitri Borodin anyway, I don't think you need three auspex masters.
I like the synergy between Thin Blood, Crocodile's Tongue and Foul Blood, so I think those should stay, but I'd cut out all your other combat and just rely on punch for 1. Maybe leave a few sideslips in there so you can punch 1 and prevent the hitback.
Your master selection needs work. The Grooming plan can certainly work, but you definately need a Wider View and a Dreams or two in there. One of the Yoruba Shrines can go and, since you will rely on Dmitri Borodin anyway, I don't think you need three auspex masters.
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17 Apr 2011 19:30 #3483
by Klaital
Replied by Klaital on topic Re: Assamite power bleed
The idea is to never bleed at stealth, so my prey will jam to whatever intercept he has, and if I get bounced its easy for my grandprey to block it. Also most of my crypt, including Dmitri and Antara, do not have superior obfuscate (or no obfuscate in case of the two smallest guys), which is why obf stealth and sacrifical lamb aren't terribly ideal, as only ones who would be able to use it properly are Hafsa, Djuhah, and Kabede.
Another combat module I had in mind was using acrobatics and stutter-steps with target vitals, since they are already 2 cards short from truth of blood, they should have hard time to ditch another two for TV. But I think that surviving combats is more important than doing lots of damage to the other guy. I do think I will switch couple groomings to dreams though.
The AUS masters are there so that Antara, Djuhah and/or Hafsa can also get to play truth of blood and croc tongue at superior, or alternatively to turn Bertrand or Sukainah as the guy to leave untapped to bounce.
Another combat module I had in mind was using acrobatics and stutter-steps with target vitals, since they are already 2 cards short from truth of blood, they should have hard time to ditch another two for TV. But I think that surviving combats is more important than doing lots of damage to the other guy. I do think I will switch couple groomings to dreams though.
The AUS masters are there so that Antara, Djuhah and/or Hafsa can also get to play truth of blood and croc tongue at superior, or alternatively to turn Bertrand or Sukainah as the guy to leave untapped to bounce.
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17 Apr 2011 21:59 - 17 Apr 2011 23:10 #3486
by Klaital
Replied by Klaital on topic Re: Assamite power bleed
Here is an updated version.
Crypt:
1x Sukainah
1x Bertrand D'Anjou
1x Hafsa, The Watcher
1x Djuhah, The Bronze Bow
2x Antara
2x Kabede Maru
4x Dmitri Borodin
Library: 90
Master: 17
3x Auspex
2x Dreams of the Sphinx
1x Giant's Blood
6x Grooming the Protége
3x The Path of Blood
2x Yoruba Shrine
Action: 18
2x Condemn the Sins of the Father
4x Khabar: Glory
4x Loss
8x Truth of Blood
Action Modifier: 21
5x Blood Awakening
8x Crocodile's Tongue
5x Deed the Heart's Desire
3x Trochomancy
Combat: 20
4x Preternatural Evasion
6x Sideslip
8x Thin Blood
2x Vascular Explosion
Reaction: 14
5x Eyes of Argus
3x Foul Blood
6x Telepathic Misdirection
I noticed that in addition to the 'you will choke on your intercept', there is also a 'you will choke on your prevent' theme going here with the deck simply burning the blood away and dodging, so I guess I accidently made a 'screw you AUS/FOR walls' deck. Anyway, I added to that theme a bit by putting a couple surprise vascular explosions there which do rather big unpreventable hit that can easily bin a vampire weakened by croc tongues and thin bloods already, and also combined with croc tongue kills every ally in the game. Path makes the cost of Vascular tolerable and people will definetily not see that coming after I have been just dodging and s:ceing the whole game (not to mention I have never seen anyone ever play Vascular Explosion as its not terribly good overall, but fits in this deck decently well).
I also did the aforementioned switch of couple groomings to dreams that can either speed up transfers early or flush my hand later in the game. I also switched 2 Truth of Bloods to Loss, and 2 Condemn to another two Loss, both so that Antara, Djuhah, and Hafsa can bleed for 3 before they get AUS, and in case I want to get rid of some annoying equipment sometimes, sniper rifles and guns with manuevers especially come to mind. I don't really want a condemn too early as its mostly an endgame card for when I am going for an oust with 3-4 guys out, so 2 of those should be enough. Finally I switched one Telepathic Misdirection to one more Trochomancy for more lunge power.
Crypt:
1x Sukainah
1x Bertrand D'Anjou
1x Hafsa, The Watcher
1x Djuhah, The Bronze Bow
2x Antara
2x Kabede Maru
4x Dmitri Borodin
Library: 90
Master: 17
3x Auspex
2x Dreams of the Sphinx
1x Giant's Blood
6x Grooming the Protége
3x The Path of Blood
2x Yoruba Shrine
Action: 18
2x Condemn the Sins of the Father
4x Khabar: Glory
4x Loss
8x Truth of Blood
Action Modifier: 21
5x Blood Awakening
8x Crocodile's Tongue
5x Deed the Heart's Desire
3x Trochomancy
Combat: 20
4x Preternatural Evasion
6x Sideslip
8x Thin Blood
2x Vascular Explosion
Reaction: 14
5x Eyes of Argus
3x Foul Blood
6x Telepathic Misdirection
I noticed that in addition to the 'you will choke on your intercept', there is also a 'you will choke on your prevent' theme going here with the deck simply burning the blood away and dodging, so I guess I accidently made a 'screw you AUS/FOR walls' deck. Anyway, I added to that theme a bit by putting a couple surprise vascular explosions there which do rather big unpreventable hit that can easily bin a vampire weakened by croc tongues and thin bloods already, and also combined with croc tongue kills every ally in the game. Path makes the cost of Vascular tolerable and people will definetily not see that coming after I have been just dodging and s:ceing the whole game (not to mention I have never seen anyone ever play Vascular Explosion as its not terribly good overall, but fits in this deck decently well).
I also did the aforementioned switch of couple groomings to dreams that can either speed up transfers early or flush my hand later in the game. I also switched 2 Truth of Bloods to Loss, and 2 Condemn to another two Loss, both so that Antara, Djuhah, and Hafsa can bleed for 3 before they get AUS, and in case I want to get rid of some annoying equipment sometimes, sniper rifles and guns with manuevers especially come to mind. I don't really want a condemn too early as its mostly an endgame card for when I am going for an oust with 3-4 guys out, so 2 of those should be enough. Finally I switched one Telepathic Misdirection to one more Trochomancy for more lunge power.
Last edit: 17 Apr 2011 23:10 by Klaital.
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18 Apr 2011 09:44 #3498
by Dasein
Replied by Dasein on topic Re: Assamite power bleed
I love the deck! I might give it a go. Looks like a lot of fun, and has some favourite cards of mine in there (Truth of Blood, Crocodile Tongue).
Though I must admit, I'm considering -1 Yoruba Shrine, +1 Black Throne...
Though I must admit, I'm considering -1 Yoruba Shrine, +1 Black Throne...
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