Stealthy Force of Will
20 Aug 2012 17:59 #35075
by Dorrinal
Stealthy Force of Will was created by Dorrinal
I'm obsessed with Skidmark and his friends with 
. It is an awful crypt, but here's one of my best decks for it. Please post comments!
Deck Name: Stealthy Force of Will
Author: John McGlynn
Description:
Bring out 3 vampires who get a Laptop Computer and/or bleed retainer then bleed at stealth. Force of Will, Freak Drive, Rapid Healing for the lunge. Get 1 VP before being ousted!
Crypt (Capacity min=4 max=6 avg=5; 12 cards)
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1x Aaron Bathurst 4 for obf pot !Nosferatu:4
1x Harry Reese 6 cel obf FOR PRO !Gangrel:3
1x Little Willie 4 for obf pro !Ventrue:4
2x Louis de Maisonneuve 5 aus dom obf FOR !Ventrue:4
1x Macoute 6 obf thn FOR NEC Samedi:4
2x Maria Stone 5 cel obf pro FOR !Gangrel:3
2x Skidmark 5 aus pot FOR OBF !Nosferatu:4
1x Sophia Watson 6 obf pro ANI FOR Gangrel:3
1x Wolfgang 4 for obf pot Nosferatu:3
Library (60 cards)
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Master (12 cards)
3x Blood Doll
1x Pentex(TM) Subversion
3x Perfectionist
1x Powerbase: Montreal
3x Sudden Reversal
1x Visit from the Capuchin
Event (1 cards)
1x Narrow Minds
Action (16 cards)
3x Blithe Acceptance
7x Force of Will
6x Rapid Healing
Equipment (3 cards)
3x Laptop Computer
Retainer (3 cards)
1x J. S. Simmons, Esq.
1x Robert Carter
1x Tasha Morgan
Action Modifier (22 cards)
2x Cloak the Gathering
2x Daring the Dawn
1x Domain of Evernight
2x Faceless Night
9x Freak Drive
2x Leverage
2x Lost in Crowds
2x Spying Mission
Combo (3 cards)
1x Gift of Sleep
2x Swallowed by the Night
Created with Secret Library v0.9.3. (Aug 20, 2012 22:56:48)


Deck Name: Stealthy Force of Will
Author: John McGlynn
Description:
Bring out 3 vampires who get a Laptop Computer and/or bleed retainer then bleed at stealth. Force of Will, Freak Drive, Rapid Healing for the lunge. Get 1 VP before being ousted!
Crypt (Capacity min=4 max=6 avg=5; 12 cards)
===============================================
1x Aaron Bathurst 4 for obf pot !Nosferatu:4
1x Harry Reese 6 cel obf FOR PRO !Gangrel:3
1x Little Willie 4 for obf pro !Ventrue:4
2x Louis de Maisonneuve 5 aus dom obf FOR !Ventrue:4
1x Macoute 6 obf thn FOR NEC Samedi:4
2x Maria Stone 5 cel obf pro FOR !Gangrel:3
2x Skidmark 5 aus pot FOR OBF !Nosferatu:4
1x Sophia Watson 6 obf pro ANI FOR Gangrel:3
1x Wolfgang 4 for obf pot Nosferatu:3
Library (60 cards)
=====================
Master (12 cards)
3x Blood Doll
1x Pentex(TM) Subversion
3x Perfectionist
1x Powerbase: Montreal
3x Sudden Reversal
1x Visit from the Capuchin
Event (1 cards)
1x Narrow Minds
Action (16 cards)
3x Blithe Acceptance
7x Force of Will
6x Rapid Healing
Equipment (3 cards)
3x Laptop Computer
Retainer (3 cards)
1x J. S. Simmons, Esq.
1x Robert Carter
1x Tasha Morgan
Action Modifier (22 cards)
2x Cloak the Gathering
2x Daring the Dawn
1x Domain of Evernight
2x Faceless Night
9x Freak Drive
2x Leverage
2x Lost in Crowds
2x Spying Mission
Combo (3 cards)
1x Gift of Sleep
2x Swallowed by the Night
Created with Secret Library v0.9.3. (Aug 20, 2012 22:56:48)

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20 Aug 2012 18:08 #35076
by Ohlmann
Replied by Ohlmann on topic Re: Stealthy Force of Will
Have you tested it ? Because I don't want to offend you but it does not seem like very efficient, nor very original past the suicidal part.
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20 Aug 2012 18:18 #35077
by Pascal Bertrand
Replied by Pascal Bertrand on topic Re: Stealthy Force of Will
No Regenaration :'( ?
Force of Will requires a tapped guy, and most of your crypt being Sabbat dudes, I would highly recommend a Hungry Coyotte. Or Cairo Intl Airport. Or anything that gives you a non-bleed action.
'could be a Laptop Computer that you would keep equipping (equipping is possible from someone in torpor, if you don't have the blood to rescue the fellow.
Force of Will requires a tapped guy, and most of your crypt being Sabbat dudes, I would highly recommend a Hungry Coyotte. Or Cairo Intl Airport. Or anything that gives you a non-bleed action.
'could be a Laptop Computer that you would keep equipping (equipping is possible from someone in torpor, if you don't have the blood to rescue the fellow.
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20 Aug 2012 18:21 - 20 Aug 2012 18:26 #35078
by Dorrinal

I've posted my deck for comment in a public forum where I've posted a dozen other decks (some of them worse). Why do you think I would be offended? Do you plan to insult me and/or my heritage instead of offering constructive criticism?
No one should ever be afraid to post honest questions or critiques of decks posted in this forum. So do it!
Pascal:
Hungry Coyote is a good suggestion. Most of the time I take one of these actions:
Replied by Dorrinal on topic Re: Stealthy Force of Will
Yes I have tested it. It was fun to play.Have you tested it ? Because I don't want to offend you but it does not seem like very efficient, nor very original past the suicidal part.

I've posted my deck for comment in a public forum where I've posted a dozen other decks (some of them worse). Why do you think I would be offended? Do you plan to insult me and/or my heritage instead of offering constructive criticism?
No one should ever be afraid to post honest questions or critiques of decks posted in this forum. So do it!
Pascal:
Hungry Coyote is a good suggestion. Most of the time I take one of these actions:
- Equip Laptop Computer
- Employ a retainer
- Steal Powerbase: Montreal
- Hunt.

Last edit: 20 Aug 2012 18:26 by Dorrinal. Reason: Added quote and response to Pascal
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20 Aug 2012 19:14 - 20 Aug 2012 19:17 #35087
by alek
Replied by alek on topic Re: Stealthy Force of Will
what's the purpose of this build?
If you want to create efficient stealth & bleed deck, dom obf, pre obf, or dem obf would be muuuch better. But you are probably aware of it.
If you want to create stealt & bleed deck that has to be (because you lost some bet or for any other reason
based on fortitude than it looks more or less ok. I would just think of getting more superior disciplines, inferior force of will is just weak. You can change a crypt or play master module with villeins, 3-4 lilith's blessings and some disciplines. Such module prove its strenght in tournaments already.
If you want to create stealth % bleed deck that would be not just worse but different than tournament archetypes, you have to put more pressure on cards that can distinguish you from standard stealth and bleed. It's like making political deck with sabbat. You can just make it worse than camarrila (no parity shifts, etc.) or you can make it diffent using cards that you couldn't use when playing cama, f.e you could play tzimisce political deck with strong viccisitude combat or war ghouls support.
In your build the thing that distunguish this deck from other bleed decks is fortitude. So I would try to use it for something that is not possible to have in f.e malkavian s&b. It could be good offensive and defensive combat module with sticks, hidden strenght and indomitability.
You could play more darings to not just make your bleeds hard to block, but to make them unblockable by vampires.
Or you can use multiacting for something else than getting +bleed retainers, making it a kind of toolbox bleed. F.e make your crypt based on samedi and add pool gain module with little mountain cemetery.
If you want to create efficient stealth & bleed deck, dom obf, pre obf, or dem obf would be muuuch better. But you are probably aware of it.
If you want to create stealt & bleed deck that has to be (because you lost some bet or for any other reason

If you want to create stealth % bleed deck that would be not just worse but different than tournament archetypes, you have to put more pressure on cards that can distinguish you from standard stealth and bleed. It's like making political deck with sabbat. You can just make it worse than camarrila (no parity shifts, etc.) or you can make it diffent using cards that you couldn't use when playing cama, f.e you could play tzimisce political deck with strong viccisitude combat or war ghouls support.
In your build the thing that distunguish this deck from other bleed decks is fortitude. So I would try to use it for something that is not possible to have in f.e malkavian s&b. It could be good offensive and defensive combat module with sticks, hidden strenght and indomitability.
You could play more darings to not just make your bleeds hard to block, but to make them unblockable by vampires.
Or you can use multiacting for something else than getting +bleed retainers, making it a kind of toolbox bleed. F.e make your crypt based on samedi and add pool gain module with little mountain cemetery.
Last edit: 20 Aug 2012 19:17 by alek.
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20 Aug 2012 20:15 #35091
by Juggernaut1981




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Replied by Juggernaut1981 on topic Re: Stealthy Force of Will
No copies of Psychic Veil?? Can't think of a better thing to be done by a bunch of weenies with obf who then want to suicide-bomber themselves with bleed actions...





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